Sunday, October 15, 2006

Ideas Which Go Against the Grain




Tee-hee-hee!
;)

20 Comments:

Anonymous karst14 said...

Yes, it does go against the grain. But when you consider the optionality of it, that leaves plenty of wiggle room for the more undisciplined souls among us. So I guess their only problem is solving the koan of co-existence. it's sort of a mental barrier they will need to get over. LOL! More power to them!

8:51 PM  
Blogger Rich Bansha said...

Very good work. Have been onboard for years without even realizing it. It is high time that somebody articulated such a strategy for everyone to work with. Bravo!

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This article is superb, fidelbogen. Very relevant and accurate.

Sexuality is indeed the keystone of female power. Men have got to start thinking about how the game is played and realize the ways in which they undermine their own negotiating power. Imagine how things would be if every male had the opportunity to read and contemplate upon what you have presented here.

Regards,
genderwar.org

10:30 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

"Imagine how things would be if every male had the opportunity to read and contemplate upon what you have presented here."

My thoughts precisely, while I was writing the article..!

Thanks for the props! :)

12:28 AM  
Anonymous Collins said...

It's about time someone articulated a strategy for us men to free ourselves from the stranglehold of feminism; thank you for doing that! One more thing you might not have thought of: women are more sexual than men, as I learned from Marc Rudov, author of "The Man's No-Nonsense Guide to Women" & "Under the Clitoral Hood." Women are more sexual than we are because:
1. They can have mulitple orgasms in one night; we can't.
2. They have a body part (the clitoris) whose only purpose is sexual pleasure; we have no such body part.
3. They take longer to warm up than we do, but once they do get hot, they take just as long to cool down.
It makes no sense, therefore, that we are the buyers of sex while women are the dealers. It should be the other way around.

Keep up the good writing!

2:01 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

Well, ya know....I've always had a sneaking suspicion that GOD created the clit in order to give idiots something to squabble about....;-}

And God must be having a damn good old belly laugh, listening to all the furore and hoo-ha!

Case in point: It was the "genius" of feminism to have taken something as "personal" as the clitoris, and to have invested it with (gasp!) POLITICAL SIGNIFICANCE!!

Talk about "the personal is the political"!!!

Superlative contribution to world civilization and the advancement of human enlightenment, this "politicization of the clit"...!;)

7:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This article should be required reading for teen age boys and young men. For far too long women have been using "No" and playing hard to get as a way to maniupalate and control men. Now it's time we return the favor. I for one have little to do with women. I do not live like a celebate monk, but I do not bother with relationships with women and I do not pursue them. I for the most part, am one of the growing numbers of "ghost men" who chose to submerge from view like a diving submarine. The more men who opt to withdraw from women, the more power we take back from the feminists. By learning to say "No" and seeing women's game playing for what it is, we can return a measure of sanity to our society without violence or being abusive.

6:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Collins said...

It's about time someone articulated a strategy for us men to free ourselves from the stranglehold of feminism; thank you for doing that! One more thing you might not have thought of: women are more sexual than men, as I learned from Marc Rudov, author of "The Man's No-Nonsense Guide to Women" & "Under the Clitoral Hood." Women are more sexual than we are because:
1. They can have mulitple orgasms in one night; we can't.
2. They have a body part (the clitoris) whose only purpose is sexual pleasure; we have no such body part.
3. They take longer to warm up than we do, but once they do get hot, they take just as long to cool down.
It makes no sense, therefore, that we are the buyers of sex while women are the dealers. It should be the other way around."


Its these out right lies, exaggerations, half truths and myths that have filled the minds of ignorant men who can't see reality right in front of them. if the lies above were the case for how many thousands of years, then why is it now that these so called "discoveries" have not modified female behavor and the lack of male understanding of their own bodies helps to further these lies and create the illusion of the "invincible" sex woman. its all bullshite. The medical and scientific communities are funded by biased organizations that help to spread sexual lies and myths to further mis-educate the public and maintain a social system that degrades and enslaves men. They are all lies. How great is a creature that must use a battery driven device for 20 minutes to even have any pleasure??? How many times do men masturbate in a day? And how many "multiple o's" does that account for. Can a woman approach this? Its just all so stupid. Also men seem to forget that women LIE! even to researchers. They are fakers and can fool doctors too. Bullshite all of this crap. men have a penis, its purpose is to actually grow longer in size and its "MULTI functional" what part of the woman can do this???

ignorant Jerk

8:46 PM  
Blogger averagejoesgym said...

The problem is the Nanny State, not the courtship part. The courtship advantage is temporary. Also, it diminishes with age. The problem is that women never have to grow up or compromise today. Affirmative action, special university grants, DHHS free housing, WIC, etc... all mean that women can be retarded and irresponsible forever. Sadder still, most of the money comes from the sweat of male taxpayers. As males, we should be fighting all these handouts. Once women have to compete on a level playing field, they will come running back to the bargaining table.

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as men will cater to women's whims, women will be prevented from becoming fully human creatures.

Pulling away from women and inflicting them the pains of love withdrawal is not cruel.

We must force women to become humans or we'll never get out of this sand trap. That can only be achieved, unfortunately, by pain.
Many will be sacrificed, but many men have been sacrificed, too.

Dura lex, sed lex.
The Law is hard, but it's the Law.
We evolve mainly through pain and women have been spared the rod. Sooner or later, women will have to catch up with men in the area of suffering: it's the only way to become human.

As it turns out, the best way to love women is to not love them until they are worthy of us.

10:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they have clitoris to forget the burdens of reproduction. Fark if l had to think about being left to carry and hold the baby, l need a hooded-head as well.

1:01 AM  
Blogger Coffee Catholic said...

It really chaps my hide how sex became "power" to women. That is so demented and messed up! Then, those of us wome that keep our legs crossed and save ourselves for one man are treated like absolute trash! Worse, we are treated like we have mental problems!! We are scorned and harassed and treated like crap by women that should know to mind their own stupid business! But they don't because Feminism has NO respect for ANYONE and those that follow that cesspool of an ideology honestly believe they have the "right" to bully and attack anyone that refuses to do as they do. Arrrrg!!

Sex should never have become something that has to do with power. That is so twisted! It's about LOVE. That's why I prefer to say LOVE MAKING instead of the cold, clinical term "sex". To rip love away from sex... yeah, just look around us and we see what happens.

Thankfully I'm married now to a great man and I am no longer being torn to shreds by the warped Feminists that can't handle female chastity ~ not even in church for pity sake! But now I live as a virtual recluse these days ~ I've just been burned too many times to try and make a lot of female friends or be social. I'm like an old war vet skulking in the shadows full of scars. I'd rather just hide out at home with my husband, a few trusted friends, and my sweet newborn daughter. Screw it, I can't take any more of this Feminist society.

(Yeah, I'm married *and* I'm breeding ~ two big crimes in this post-Women's Revolt Feministthink world! But guess what? THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE RULES THE WORLD and while the Feminists are dying off because they "don't need" men and can't handle having kids because kids "get in the way" of their slutty bar-hopping lives and their precious careers... we REGULAR women are rocking millions of cradles that contain the offspring of good men. BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!)

Feminism sucks. It's dangerous and it's destroying the very fabric of our civilization. You're a great writer! I love your blog and I'm so glad to see men fighting back against Feminism. I had no idea that men were standing up against the Fembots until I stumbled upon Marky Mark's blog! THANK GOD!

This'll sound soooo stupid to you but I don't CARE any more. The truth is the truth and men like you are like Knights In Shining Armor to us regular women. Please help us non-Feminist women not be buried alive by this dangerous ideology! A lot of you men might not want a wife anymore because of the terrorism of Feminism but please help us "other" women fight to save our culture and our civilization. Feminism has done its darn best to remove all "choice" from men and women with regards to if we do or do not want to follow that wretched ideology. There are so many of us totally despised and invisible women out there that want REAL MEN and real femininity! We want to stay home and breed and we do not want careers and we do not want to be men-women that compete with our husbands. The Feminists are doing everything they can to remove that choice from us!

Feminism is dangerous. You guys might not want us women anymore but we need your help in this crazy gender war!! Otherwise we are totally screwed. And I'm not afraid to admit that! Unlike the warped Feminists we "regular" women are not afraid of having a healthy, normal need for men in our lives in all capacities.

Don't give up on us women. We are not all Feminists. We are just ... invisible thanks to Feminism. The Female Ghost Nation... I've lost count of how many of my friends have become recluses like me. It's so freaky!

2:14 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

CC, I am floored by your passionate words! You have a gift; you speak from the heart—whereas all that I can (mostly) do is intellectualize!

1:54 AM  
Blogger Coffee Catholic said...

Fidelbogen,

In all things, balance: one person's passionate from-the-heart words are well balanced by another's intellectualizing! We need both. :-)

3:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Feminism is dangerous. You guys might not want us women anymore but we need your help in this crazy gender war!! Otherwise we are totally screwed. And I'm not afraid to admit that! Unlike the warped Feminists we "regular" women are not afraid of having a healthy, normal need for men in our lives in all capacities. ."



The problem is, CC, that women have not only allowed this situation to develop and grow: they all jmped into the bandwagon with enthusiasm.

Until WOMEN fix the "problem" they have created (I'm not even sure it's a problem anymore if men turn their backs on women), things will get from bad to worse in an ever accelerated rate.

I have observed the Men's movement for a number of year and I can tell you that the rhetoric is much more acid than it was a couple of years ago.

Yes, this society will perhaps collapse under its own idiocy.
But you MUST remember this: it is WOMEN who will have to pay for the damages and fix the mess.
It seems to me that the future of mankind rests solely on the shoulders of women: there is nothing that men can do. Too late for that.

Will women wake up and see what they have done?
Apart from a very few women who have not lost their minds, such as you, hardly any women will stand up and say "Enough".
But I know that women will not do that.

Anarchiste

11:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this article needs to be made reading material for every MRA. I'm surprised honestly it hasn't gone viral by now.

I base my life on its principles. So I just put a "maximum investment threshold" on myself. That means I invest x minutes per woman... If she doesn't reciprocate interest within x minutes, its NEXT. I don't care if she's shy, or she thinks she'll look easy if she responds positively to a guy that fast or any of that.

Point is, a random hot woman I don't know is only worth 30 seconds of my time. That's all she gets until she earns more. How does she earn more? Well, she responds positively and start flirting, touching me, asking questions, actually investing effort in the conversation...

Good, she just earned 5 more minutes of my time :) If in those 5 minutes she doesn't initiate or reciprociate the next level of flirting/effort its "nice to have met you, bye bye".

If you keep doing this for every step, and having a "maximum investment threshold per woman" you will find your anger toward woman subsides.

I used to have frustration and anger with women for YEARS until I discovered this. When I did, all of a sudden it disappeared.

Feminists says that the reason guys react so violently/violated to rejection has to do with "the fragile male ego" or that we react badly to rejection as a way of controlling women. And I used to believe a part of it "that something must be wrong with me if I react so badly to female rejection"...

But then, I discovered there's a primal part of man involved with feeling violated if his resources have been abused by a woman (she got him to invest a ton of resources without giving anything back). And I went through all my rejections that made me angry and confirmed it. They all had to do with "investing more than the woman". If I had invested very little and got very little, I had never gotten angry, so its not the rejection itself, its the "return on investment" that makes us feel mad.

So here's the formula again for you guys:

A random owner of a vagina only gets 30 seconds of your time. If within those 30 seconds she doesn't display some effort back (asking questions herself, investing energy, etc), cut it off.

If she is friendly and its a two-way conversation, and you want something more, start flirting or showing interest. If she doesn't reciprocicate within 5 minutes, cut it off.

Its like stocks. Know when to buy and when to sell.

2:30 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@RecentlyDeletedCommenter:

You know who you are.

This is a political blog, so I would ask you to confine your remarks to a political (rather than personal) vein.

If you wish to have your comments posted, please bear the following points in mind:

1. Ad hominem argument doesn't fly, so bag the armpit psychology.

2. Demonstrate some knowledge of the political issues under discussion here, and try to engage the matter on those terms.

3. Back up your claims with substantive arguments, citing relevant passages from the text of the article.

4. If you wish to find fault with the quality of the prose, please cite relevant principles of prose mechanics and style that you feel have been violated.

6:21 PM  
Blogger unixdr1 said...

Has someone sabotaged this page? The video I see at the top is about croquet!

7:27 PM  
Blogger unixdr1 said...

Has someone sabotaged this page? The video at top is about croquet!

7:28 PM  
Blogger unixdr1 said...

Could be sabotage, the video at top currently shows croquet.

7:34 PM  

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