Monday, March 31, 2008

Somewhere On the Web. . .

. . . I posted the following bit. It was on a reader comment thread, on an article. And the article mentioned Jackson Katz, and it talked about the responsibility of men to stop being "silent" and whatnot. The lack of word-crafting skill among the various commenters was painfully on display -- which was too bad, since I richly appreciated what some of them were saying, and I yearned to open a prose madrassa so I could teach them how to say it better!

But anyway, just for shits-n-giggles, I belted out THIS:

A few points that ought to be self-evident:

1. The Duke defendants are, and always have been, INNOCENT. They were never proven guilty, and that means that they are INNOCENT in the eyes of the law. Don't forget, the law says "innocent until proven guilty."

2. Other than NOT RAPING ANYBODY, or calling the police in the rare event that you think a rape is occurring or about to occur, there is absolutely NOTHING to be done "about" rape. Ideologically-based moral crusades directed against men collectively are absolutely worthless, because "men collectively" do not commit rape -- only rapists commit rape, and they do this one rapist at a time. Anti-rape crusades focused abstractly upon the male population serve only one purpose: to provide a cheap emotional orgasm for the screaming hordes of hysterical man-hating harpies who infest the world like household vermin.

3. Most rapists understandably do not seek publicity for their crimes. Hence, witnesses are not often present, which makes corroboration difficult. In practice this means that many if not most rape cases are effectively UNPROSECUTABLE unless you lower the standard of evidence so far that the mere unsupported word of the plaintiff carries enough weight to secure a conviction. But that would mean that no man is safe from perjured testimony by a woman. On that account, I believe that the majority of rape cases ought to be thrown out of court - because the prosecution lacks sufficient grounds of evidence.

Permit me to add that I concur wholeheartedly with the feminist precept that we should never, never, ever "blame the victim". It's virtually a no-brainer. If a woman gets raped, who rapes her? Does she rape herself? Of course not! We as individuals are responsible for the choices that we personally make, and for the actions that we personally commit, and it was the rapist who personally chose to commit the action of rape. Therefore, I blame the rapist for putting into action his choice to commit rape. That is, I hold him personally responsible for his actions, and his choices.

I do NOT hold him personally responsible for her actions, and her choices. For example, I do not hold the rapist personally responsible for her choice to appear at that particular party, her choice to dress in a sexually provocative manner, her choice to get "stinko", her choice to venture into the back hallway or backyard of that particular house, her choice to be in that particular social milieu, her choice to run with that particular "fast crowd" when she could have freely chosen to consort with a better class of people, and so on. In sum, the entire karmic funnel in which she voluntarily placed herself and which accelerated the logic of events toward a particular climax -- for all of that, the rapist bears no personal responsibilty whatsoever! None.

So you see, I am not blaming the victim. I am merely holding her responsible for her own actions and her own choices. Would you care to inform me that she did not in fact DO any of these things? Well in fact she did, and therefore she is in fact responsible. I hold her responsible for these things because I cannot LOGICALLY hold anybody ELSE responsible for them.....CAN I?

CAN I ??

8 Comments:

Blogger Bob said...

The rape-hate campaign by feminazi and manginas like Katz has created an atmosphere of terror for men in mixed company. Its fueled by anti-men hate and driven by a desire to destroy men without regard to crime or punishment for crime.

When you actually look at rape, it's not much of a crime. If some slut female gets drunk at a party and gets laid one more time than she planned on this month she has not been injured in any measurable way. The difference between getting laid by 12 men this month instead of 11 is trivial. The "crime" if it exists at all is failing to pay for a commercial service, and a petty crime at best. If convicted at all it should be punished about as severely as overtime parking, about the price of a whore on the street.

Bob

Catch more of The World According to Bob at: http://bobstruth.blogspot.com

7:29 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Bob: Your first paragraph above nicely summarizes my own feelings upon the point in question.

Your second paragraph, however, poses certain difficulties, for it wanders into a very tricky swamp replete with patches of quicksand. I shall not accompany you into that marshland, since I cannot see the necessity of travelling there. Moreover, I would counsel you to make for solid high ground -- of which there is no lack in the present case.

In fine, I shall not personally endorse the position which you have stated in your second paragraph. Neither, as witness my present remarks, shall I rubberstamp it according to the maxim of qui tacit consentire.

And for the benefit of a larger audience, I would add that I bear no personal responsibility, on the spur of this or any similar occasion, to issue any statement in the form of a moral injunction, or to discharge any sentiments of a hortatory nature.

12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Your second paragraph, however, poses certain difficulties, for it wanders into a very tricky swamp replete with patches of quicksand. I shall not accompany you into that marshland, since I cannot see the necessity of travelling there. Moreover, I would counsel you to make for solid high ground -- of which there is no lack in the present case.

In fine, I shall not personally endorse the position which you have stated in your second paragraph. Neither, as witness my present remarks, shall I rubberstamp it according to the maxim of qui tacit consentire.

And for the benefit of a larger audience, I would add that I bear no personal responsibility, on the spur of this or any similar occasion, to issue any statement in the form of a moral injunction, or to discharge any sentiments of a hortatory nature."


Surely, I'm not the only reader who would have preferred a cogent, concise and convincing counter argument to Bob's 2nd paragraph rather than that mumbo jumbo.

Such a transparent attempt to discomBOBulate your readers not only insults our intelligence, it damages your credibility. Then again, that's what usually happens whenever pseudo-intellectualism runs smack into to the bitch slap of cold, hard reasoning.

6:34 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

Ahem!... With respect, good sir, if BOB feels discomBOBulated by my remarks to him, I am certain he would have the goodness to inform us. . . yes? ;-)

7:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Ahem!... With respect, good sir, if BOB feels discomBOBulated by my remarks to him, I am certain he would have the goodness to inform us. . . yes? ;-)"

Nice try with the old disingenuous bait & switch trick but how Bob feels about your remarks to him was clearly not the point of my original comment – which I just reverified for clarity – so your response to me only discredits you further.

With respect, good sir, I stand by my original statements.

1:15 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@ anonymous: You sound as if you think you are on your own turf. I would beg leave kindly to inform you otherwise. ;-}

". .how Bob feels about your remarks to him was clearly not the point of my original comment. ."

Clearly not. Nor was your original comment the "point" of anything beyond itself, pilgrim! The only "point" that counts around here is contained in my original comment addressed to Bob. Therefore, the only issue (if there is one) is between Bob and myself - and if Bob wants to take it up with me, then he is free to do so.

And if I have disappointed any readers by not crafting the manner of reply to Bob that they were hoping for, then those readers are more than welcome to invest their reading time elsewhere.

". .your response to me only discredits you further."

Never did have any credit in THAT market. Nor do I trade there.

Anyway...If it's a counter-argument to Bob you are wanting, then by all means roll your own. Go for it, give him a nice juicy charbroiled piece of your mind! Give him what-for!

Pardon me while I go and cook some popcorn! ;-)

8:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm someone who believes that men have rights, like to decide whether or not they should have to pay child support and whatnot, that makes feminists scoff at me. But...

"...entire karmic funnel in which she voluntarily placed herself and which accelerated the logic of events toward a particular climax..."

You DO blame the victim. Your very long paragraph boils down to: a woman should have known that if she dressed in commercially available party ("sexually provocative") clothes, drinks at a party where there is alcohol, and socializes with similar people, she sets herself up to get raped. Are you serious? Did you go to college? You've basically said every college party I've ever been to was any man's right to rape a woman, or any woman's excuse to get raped. I've dressed in skimpy outfits at such parties before TO GET LAID (with resounding success), but that doesn't mean that any man on the floor can lay me without my consent. Do you see the difference? You can say her actions were bound to culminate in sex, and you'd probably have placed her intentions right on, but to say that she played a large part in getting a man to drag her into some secluded area, force her legs apart (figuratively or in any other way), and shove his erect dick into her unwilling hole? Go try that excuse in court, you ignorant dick.

8:01 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

Au contraire! I blame the perpetrator: he alone is responsible for his decision to insert part A into part B. He had no right (under present cultural norms which I personally endorse) to do this without her consent.

Further, I would concur with your final statement, where you suggest that a certain "excuse" would not work in court. And it seems unlikely (bordering on sheer impossibility) that any rape defendant would use such a line of argument at all. (Oddly though, it would be COMICAL if he did...! In fact, it sounds like promising material for a farce in one act, for any writer who wants to work with the concept!)

I would not personally counsel any such ploy as a defense strategy, for it would almost certainly fail.

6:12 PM  

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