Another Charming False Rape Apologist
You know, if the feminists ever decide to throw in the towel on the subject of false rape, it will do traumatic structural-political damage to feminism as a movement, and as an ideology! So I don't realistically expect the feminists to budge until somebody fastens a chain to them, and secures the other end to a truck, and pulls them up like a stump!
Anyway, I would like to introduce you to one Marcella Chester, who publishes an anti-rape advocacy blog called Abyss2Hope. And while I'm at it, I wish to thank Archivist of the False Rape Society blog for bringing this to my attention, in the following: http://tinyurl.com/5s5xfl
So, Marcella Chester devoted an entire Abyss2Hope post to dissecting (with clumsy scalpels) a certain comment which Archivist had left on her blog in reply to an earlier post. Rather than summarizing it, I will send you there now to read it: http://tinyurl.com/6r4m5a
You will note a comment by myself, which quickly passed through moderation. All the same, I reproduce it below:
You might feel moved to leave a comment at A2H. If so, I would advise that you save a copy on your own computer before you hit the publish button. You might want to share it with CF readers -- and you know, I'm pretty good about not moderating comments on this blog! ;)
Anyway, I would like to introduce you to one Marcella Chester, who publishes an anti-rape advocacy blog called Abyss2Hope. And while I'm at it, I wish to thank Archivist of the False Rape Society blog for bringing this to my attention, in the following: http://tinyurl.com/5s5xfl
So, Marcella Chester devoted an entire Abyss2Hope post to dissecting (with clumsy scalpels) a certain comment which Archivist had left on her blog in reply to an earlier post. Rather than summarizing it, I will send you there now to read it: http://tinyurl.com/6r4m5a
You will note a comment by myself, which quickly passed through moderation. All the same, I reproduce it below:
"Are you muddying the real issue on purpose? I think that you are!
"The real issue is the foundational principle in law known as PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE. It has taken us a long time, and a lot of blood, sweat and tears to secure this principle in the jurisprudence of Western civilization, and I for one don't intend to let it slide down the pan without raising some hell about it!
"The DEFENDANT (i.e. the "accused") is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
"The process of proving the defendant guilty, is known as a "trial". If the defendant is presumed guilty right off the bat, then there is NO NEED FOR A TRIAL AT ALL . . . . . . is there? What the hell, he's guilty -- just lock him up and be done with it! Right?
"Do you find that scenario morally acceptable? Would you be willing to identify yourself as a "perjury apologist", or in the present case, a "false rape apologist"?I see Marcella Chester as a reactionary, fighting a rear-guard battle to defend the orthodox feminist position on rape against the rising societal tide of false rape awareness. Everything about her bespeaks hedging and stalling, fudging and trimming, equivocating, prevaricating, talking in circles. Archivist (of False Rape Society) states that he does not link to "hate sites". Being myself of a mind that sunlight is the best disinfectant, I do not share such scruples. Thus, I have provided a link as you see above.
"By the way, nobody is apologizing for rape IF it truly occurred.
"However, it must be proven to have occurred, upon a "clear and convincing" standard of evidence, and Sir Matthew Hale's warning should be read to the jury."
You might feel moved to leave a comment at A2H. If so, I would advise that you save a copy on your own computer before you hit the publish button. You might want to share it with CF readers -- and you know, I'm pretty good about not moderating comments on this blog! ;)
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posted by Fidelbogen at 5:40 PM
9 Comments:
Excellent, Fidelbogen. Brilliant analogies regarding perjury/false rape apologist. How can one argue with that? One can't, not logically.
What is most interesting to me is that I'm not exactly sure what this person is advocating (and frankly, don't care) except, I suppose, that rape accusers should be presumptively believed. I mean, I'm literally shaking my head. Where the hell does THAT nonsense come from? That is so deeply twisted it is astounding.
I guess my response to her, ah, "suggestion" is this: it's so plainly, flat-out, palbably, self-evidently stupid -- what can I say? I mean, why waste any more of my time bothering to apply logic to such a suggestion? I've got two falsely accused men I'm supposed to be trying to help at present in addition to my other clients, and I really don't have time to mess around with the modern day version of the KKK. And you hit the nail on the head, as you always do: despite all their twisting and pounding and screeching, they ain't gonna overthrow the Constitution, or the presumption of innocence, or my penis.
As far as I'm concerned, you've had the last word on this idiotic argument. Bravo to you!
Thanks, Archivist! :)
Whether my statement is or isn't the "last word", I've got a few more words where it came from, and I'll take it through the full eighteen rounds if it comes to that.
On the other hand, if this was a knockout in the first round (as you seem to think), then I'm more than happy with that outcome, too! ;)
Well as my dear old daddy used to say "Bobby the bearded clam is the natural prey of the one eyed trouser snake!" In order words "A stiff prick has no conscience!"
As far as rape daddy had some words of wisdom for all of the babes too: If it looks like you are going to be raped you might as well relax and enjoy it!
Yeah I know that's not p.c. but daddy could tell it like it is you know! No offense to all you p.c. weenies and bull dykes from Berkeley!
Oh yes, Dr. Branson -- I'm assuming that your comment was originally destined for A2H. I have no doubt it would have deeply endeared you over there! ;)
http://antimisandry.com/showthread.php?t=12625
Note my reference to "the brilliant author" of Counter-Feminist.
My view is different. When I got out of the Army in 1966, feminism was gaining strength. I spotted some flaws right away, and started speaking up in private conversations. In 1978, I wrote my first op-ed on feminist goals and laws.
From 1984 till 1993, I was a rather brazen public activist, and wrote a total of 90+ op-eds to one rural city newspaper.
I eventually realized a great truth you guys need to figure out as well.
When a woman, any woman, accepts any part of feminist dogma, no matter how minuscule or trivial, it is not possible to discuss or debate it with her, period.
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And, calling that fiend reactionary erroneously assumes a certain amount of mental health.
When I took Psych 101 around 35 years ago, I learned the three mental health conditions.
1. Mentally and emotionally healthy.
2. Neurotic, which is a person who grasps reality, knows what her problems are, and simply can't do what she well knows needs to be done.
3. Psychotic, aka known as insane, aka known as crazy. This is a person who simply does not and cannot grasp reality.
Feminism is a movement which is not based on reality. Women were historically not collectively exploited, subjugated, nor abused. Women in the US are likely to receive MORE pay for the exact same work than men. Most sexism today is directed towards men, not women.
Any woman who manages to accept and believe any part, no matter how minuscule, of feminist dogma is totally psychotic. Her value systems and beliefs simply do not correlate with reality.
It is impossible to debate psychotics. So, why do you try?
These fiends are false-charge deniers. They honestly believe that false rape charges are so rare that only a rape-denier would even bring up the topic.
They try to talk wisely about the criminal justice system and how it works. In any other part of the criminal code except rape and DV, if a person files false charges, they go to jail, period.
Stop wasting time arguing with mentally ill women, and start looking for a way to expat. Even the most ignorant and primitive African slave knew to go to Canada if he had an opportunity.
Canada is not the place to go now, but you should be getting out, just as the smart Jews bailed in the 20's.
Anonymous age 66
"Feminism is a movement which is not based on reality."
How true. How very true. And yet. . .
Not all of them are equally crazy. If that were the case, the world would have seen right straight through them, a hundred times over by now!
SOME of them are just wise enough to know that they at least need to keep up appearances. And that is where the fun begins -- you engage them on the level of rationality, and they try to play along in order to keep up appearances, but eventually the strain becomes to much for them, and the mask slips! ;)
This makes them look bad in the eyes of others, and wins recruits for the side! :)
@archivist: Naturally, I am honored! But heavens, I'm afraid I'll have to live up to that now! ;)
The previous posts by anonymous, archivist, and you fidelbogen reminded me of two aphorisms by Friedrich Nietzsche that most quotable of philosophers.
"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid."
"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule."
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