Is Feminism a Good Thing?
~It is an Object for the World!
Where is feminism's Achilles heel? If we could smite our enemy in just one place and drill that place unmercifully open, wider and deeper, until our enemy keeled over dead, where do you suppose we ought to strike? Have you got any ideas about that? Well I have a few. In fact, I believe feminism has any number of such Achilles heels. I've thought of several, and today, I'd like to examine just one.
But I would first remind you of the painfully evident: that by the rules of the present age you cannot attack feminism—it is out of bounds to do so, socially prohibited to do so, culturally interdicted to do so. You might as well urinate on the Mona Lisa; such would be the magnitude of the sacrilege. And yet there is no escape-hatch, for to capitulate in despair is not an option, to plead futility is not an option, to turn the other cheek is not an option. Attack you must, or you will BE attacked—and they will slowly, patiently, persistently grind you into sawdust. But you already knew that, didn't you?
So the only way out is forward. We are saddled with the burden of investigation, and the task is twofold. Firstly: we must enquire to know how the world maintains feminism on its altar of untouchable sanctitude. Secondly: we must enquire to know how we might deactivate the mechanism described in the first part.
The investigation gets underway with a simple observation: that the word feminism is a shibboleth. And what is a shibboleth? It is a widely held belief that interferes with the ability to speak or think about things without preconception.
Feminism is not simply a word, it is a hot potato—a word with connotations, a word with baggage, a word with a muddled and controversial belief system standing behind it. And owing to the muddle and controversy, hardly anybody remains entirely rational when the shibboleth is spoken: far too much is at stake for most people to speak or think without preconception! When this word vibrates in the air, you can feel an iron cage sliding into place around people's heads—the clang is nearly audible! In fact, the word is rarely spoken in common settings. But when it is, it normally generates a discomfort zone, at which people will silently agree to "not go there", and quickly change the subject.
A shibboleth is meant to separate one demographic sector from another by means of a test. In the celebrated Old Testament story, wrong pronunciation of this word would betray you as a foreigner. Nowadays, the word feminism serves analogously—although pronunciation is no longer under scrutiny, but rather a psychic undertone that signals membership or non-membership in a certain cultural paradigm. This word (and the emotion it triggers) divides the world into two distinctly polarized sociopolitical groupings—meaning that the ensemble of varied opinions within each group will cluster around the word feminism with a signature unique to that group and markedly unlike the opposing group. The shibboleth separates the oil from the water, due to the feelings and associations it conjures.
In keeping with the system laid down elsewhere, I will call these sociopolitical groupings the feminist sector and the non-feminist sector. The terms establish a polarity, but note that a middle zone lies between the extremities—a non-activated region composed of people who have either no opinion about feminism, or an opinion that leans only weakly in either direction but remains unmarked by appreciable passion. Yet in the fullness of time, owing to certain developments, we may expect this middle zone to grow more and more activated (galvanized) so that a stronger demarcation will emerge between the feminist and non-feminist sectors.
I, the present writer, formerly inhabited that middle zone of lukewarm opinion described above. I am a living case of the transformation that can occur.
The feminist sector morally dominates and intimidates the NF sector by reason of its organization, infiltration of the media, penetration of state apparatus, group consciousness, group solidarity and so on. Therefore the feminist sector enjoys a power advantage. The NF sector submits meekly to a feminist hegemony because, stated simply, it has no collective self-awareness and does not understand the form and structure of the opposing power. Moreover, it is prey to a certain emotion that I will call superstition.
All of these factors (and others) help to explain why it is socially taboo to attack or even mildly criticize feminism—because there is a comparative power vacuum on the NF side, whose only resource is "passive numbers". So the NF sector in its political inertia cannot muster any will-to-assert-the-contrary, and therefore the feminist sector (being the only assertive party) wins by default.
To sum up: feminism is, for the feminist sector, a sacred ox. And heaven help us, but thou shalt not gore the sacred ox! And the followers of this ox have turned their worship into a virtual state religion, a cult whose power, mystery, mana, gravitas, hierophantic mumbo-jumbo and so on have inspired, in the minds of a good many people, the emotion called superstition. All of which is a complicated way of saying that they have arrogated the moral high ground on a dubious warrant, and gulled a lot of people into playing their game.
Understand, that it makes no part of the present talk to enquire into the history behind this. We don't care to know how it came to be this way, but rather how it remains this way. How, we would like to know, does the device sustain and renew itself, day in and day out? The answer is, that feminism occupies the moral high ground by a semantic trick that is simple to comprehend.
Consider once again, that feminism is a sacred ox. In common with cultists everywhere, the followers of this ox-cult have entrusted their lives to the power of a fixed idea—or more accurately many such ideas, but only one of these will concern us now because it is pivotal and uniquely consequential.
Briefly, the worshippers of the feminist ox embrace the fixed idea that "feminism is a Good Thing." The fixed idea makes the sacred ox sacred: it must be a good thing, or why would anybody worship it? This idea is anchored to the bedrock with steel bolts; the thought that feminism could be other than a Good Thing cannot meaningfully exist for them at all! Any such possibility is ruled out of consideration and therefore unavailable for discussion.
Such is the semantic trick. The rest is details, and I will look into some of these.
For many years, the feminists have drilled and instilled the idea that feminism is "pro-woman". That is another way of saying that feminism is a good thing, because pro-woman certainly means good for women. And they so far contrive to sell this idea, that they presume to call themselves the women's movement. In this way, they have stuck a label on a bottle to distract attention from what the bottle actually contains. For if feminism is "pro-woman" (as the label seems to imply), then by clear insinuation it follows that whosoever speaks against feminism is anti-woman.
On the identical principle, I could start a movement called "the good guys". Then I and my "good guys" could be any kind of bastards we wanted to be, and since we were the good guys nobody would dare to speak against us—for that would make them the bad guys, right?
Less hypothetical would be the term "progressive", which is a name that an actual political tribe has bestowed on itself. Clearly, if you aren't one of this tribe, you are regressive, correct? Precious little choice they give you: be one of us, or be damned!
To commandeer the moral high ground by semantical handy-dandy is nothing new. Human beings have been practicing that little dodge for as long as they've been practicing politics, which is a long time. In the case of feminism, the trick is more subtle because unlike (say) "good guys" the term "feminism" carries no self-evidential, or prima facie, recommendation. The idea that feminism is a good thing is a sociological myth that was cemented in place by a lot of work over the years. They had to "make it stick", but they have succeeded, for it is now stuck very well indeed!
So in order to break free from this deceitfully constructed mental log-jam, we need to pose certain questions. For example:
"You say that feminism is pro-woman. But what ELSE is it?"
What's wanted here, is a full disclosure of ingredients: what else is in the bottle? If the feminists are not forthcoming upon this point, then I must make my own examination. And if, having done so, I conclude that feminism ought to be rejected out of hand owing to some other things which it contains, this will shift the burden onto the feminists to rationalize the presence of those other things. At this stage, feminism would need to undergo a self-criticism, an identity crisis, a self-redefinition—or else incur the risk of a wholesale and warrantable repudiation by the non-feminist sector.
To ask "is feminism a good thing?" is very little different than to ask "is X a good thing?" One must enquire to know the value of X—and by that value I mean everything which feminism might plausibly be shown to contain. X means the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, about feminism. The quest for the value of X, and the contest to assign this value, we call the Battle for Feminism's Soul.
In the feminist mind, there is a cognitive disconnection between what feminism means to them, and what feminism is in fact. The shibboleth enforces a deeply-cloven and profoundly consequential split, in feminist cognition, between the subjective and objective dimensions of knowledge. If it often appears that feminists are living in their own world, it is because they are in fact doing so.
The feminists refuse to heed signals from the non-feminist sector, and it does not occur to them that such feedback could be objectively explanatory of the nature of feminism itself. This betrays a one-sidedness, an arrogance, a hubris, a perverse subjectivity. To the feminist mindset, the fixed idea that feminism is a good thing invalidates all contrary data, and by the same stroke it invalidates all human expounders of such data.
Plainly stated, you are worth hearing only insofar as you rubberstamp the feminist worldview. And when push comes to shove, one easily foretells that feminism will try to run non-feminism straight into the ground— for, being feminism, it can scarcely behave otherwise! It is not difficult to discern the shape of feminist meta-ethics, and to fast-forward its probabilities into the future for an extrapolated view of the eventual consequences.
All of this from an ideology which arrogates a universal power of moral explanation. But however far feminism might aspire to become the world, or pretend to be the world, it is in fact not the world. It is only a mental filter, a set of tinted goggles that certain people insist on wearing for personal reasons that would be of scant interest were it not for the political power the illusion has garnered.
So how does this illusion function in practice? By what steps does the believer assemble the illusion in her (or his) mind and then launch it into operation?
Here is the recipe. Begin with the fixed idea that "feminism is a good thing". Once you have that part nailed down, you can directly derail any suggestion to the contrary, because the axiom that "feminism is a good thing" immediately proves those people wrong! Moreover, since they are attacking a good thing, it demonstrates not only that their ideas are wrong, but that they themselves are personally "not right", and therefore cannot possibly have right ideas—because how can "wrong" people have right ideas? Right?
Sounds moronically simple. But since these people are apt to be subtle morons, we must look into some further wrinkles. For example, if some challenger rattles off three or four reasons why feminism is not a good thing, assure the person that the items in question are either a.) not really feminism, or b.) some other kind of feminism (but not your kind!). Then dismiss the subject as quickly as possible, and proceed to "accentuate the positive" by lauding the merits of your feminism, while paying no further mind to your challenger's objections, and indeed washing your hands of those objections altogether.
Finally, bask in the warm afterglow of knowing that feminism is a good thing after all, and that while those who challenge it aren't necessarily "bad" people, they are most certainly deluded people, and that if they pig-headedly insist on being deluded even after you have kindly set them straight, then yes, they really are bad people. But either way, bad or merely deluded, they are not to be taken seriously and must eventually be "corrected" in one way or another.
Such is the power of the shibboleth; such is the power of the fixed idea. So it becomes a serious question whether such people as feminists should enjoy an unlimited license of self-definition or self-interpretation. Why should this thing called feminism be only what these people called feminists would have us believe it is? Are these people called feminists the only people with eyes to see, and brains to think? Are they? And are these people called feminists really thick enough to think that the rest of us are so thick that we can draw no intelligent conclusion about what feminism is? They must think we're jolly thick, all right!
When hard-pressed, many a standard feminist will fall back upon the dictionary definition of feminism:
feminism n. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.
As you'll have noted, there is a glaring cognitive disconnection between the term and the definition which follows. But that aside, the definition itself is not particularly enlightening. Admittedly, it sounds like a good thing. But otherwise it sounds fuzzy, open-ended and evasive. It is a writhing octopus of multivalencies, and so full of holes that you could drive a fleet of trucks through and steal the furniture along the way. But here, let's try a second definition, albeit one that you won't find in any dictionary:
feminism n. Anything that strengthens women at the expense of men.
There is, on the surface of the case, no special reason to favor the first definition over the second. And the second, unlike the first, is "tight as a drum", with a somewhat operational, even algorithmic character that might be expected to generate a more convergent body of solutions. If you are a feminist, you might not like the second definition (because it sounds shameful), but mere subjective distaste would not be adequate to rule out the veracity or utility of it.
But the first definition more usefully captures the spirit of understanding common to feminist-inclined people, male and female alike. When you probe such people as to the meaning of feminism, you will find that feminism is little more to them than a golden word with a halo of emotions and talking-points clustered around it. Yet despite their manifest want of cogent knowledge, these people are unanimous upon the fixed idea that feminism is a good thing.
Now turn your gaze from the common roads of life to the recondite world of feminist academia. What do you find? The identical fixed idea that feminism is a good thing, but with this difference, that the fixed idea is elaborately camouflaged beneath a gloss of educated terminology. Yet more concerningly, (and quite unlike the discourses of common life) you will find in feminist academia both a keen understanding of what the second definition implies, and a stubborn determination to suppress the damaging consequences for feminism which arise from such implications. The academic feminists know perfectly well what is going on, and they work to spackle this over by a game of theory-building that never ends. Plainly stated, the job of feminist academia is to bamboozle us with smokescreens and give us the runaround ad infinitum, so that the truth will not emerge.
Among both commoners and academics, the fixed practice is to disallow any critique of feminism on the ground that such criticism attacks a good thing. The academics, however, take it a step further when they aggressively devise sophisticated intellectual strategies to counteract and eventually "correct" the non-feminist elements who voice such criticisms. But in either case, the feminists operate from a standpoint of FEMINIST TRIUMPHALISM—which means the dogmatic conviction that feminism has achieved an objective moral triumph absolved from all further discussion. Such is their fixed idea; such is the pivot-point on which their world turns.
Here again we contemplate the Battle for Feminism's Soul. This is high drama. The adherents of feminism believe that they have triumphed, that the world rightfully belongs to them, that they may rightfully extend feminist custodialism and feminist tutelage into every possible corner of life by means of perpetual revolution, until nothing in the world lives independently of feminism—at which point feminism (at least in theory) will become the world. Yet the grubby truth is, that feminism is only a balloon waiting to die of overinflation. And in the aftermath of that messy explosion, the timeless world that we have always known—albeit in a damaged condition—will go on as we have always known it. Brief indeed, shall be feminism's eternity.
The battle for feminism's soul means the power to speak the final word, or the controlling word, on what feminism objectively IS. . . or isn't. Consider: if somebody had the power to describe and evaluate you in whatever terms they saw fit, and upon so doing their word about you became THE truth about you, then in a very practical sense you might say that your soul was no longer in your own keeping.
The NF sector now has the controlling word on what feminism objectively is or isn't. The feminists may natter at will, about us and about our world; they may pontificate and palaver; they may undertake to bind us in elaborate skeins of academic theory and recursive doubletalk. But this is all in vain because we now have the power to rip their cobwebs asunder. It is as simple as making up our minds to do so, and then doing so. And what is holding us back? Cobwebs!
The feminists insist that feminism is objectively a good thing and yet invariably something is wrong, because they can never tell you the whole truth about feminism. They themselves—or most of them at any rate—demonstrably have no clear idea what feminism is at all. And yet they have the crust to say, or to imply, or to assume, that feminism is a good thing. But how can they possibly know this? They have no better warrant for such knowledge than their fixed determination to believe at all costs, and in the face of all contrary argument.
There is one group of feminists (the majority) who cannot cogently explain what feminism IS. There is another group who can indeed do so, yet cannot cogently rationalize the adverse consequences which their explanation might generate. And there is a final group which rationalizes those adverse consequences only by militantly shifting the blame onto men and absolving women of virtually all moral accountability. (This third group is female supremacist by a de facto process of elimination, because no other endpoint logically coheres with their moral standpoint. )
All of feminism is situated on a slippery slope leading toward female supremacism as a moral endpoint. Note the progression: from those who possess no cogent understanding of what feminism is, to those who do possess such understanding but maneuver to avoid the implications, to those who militantly embrace the implications and damn the torpedoes! These three layers of feminist cognition operate as an integrated cultural organism, with a distribution of functions across many sectors.
That the majority of self-proclaimed feminists would not appreciate hearing such things, will not deter the present writer's assessment. And it is upon precisely the foundation here suggested, that the NF sector may claim to speak the controlling word about feminism. Feminism as a whole has no unified conscious knowledge of itself as a whole—meaning that feminist self-knowledge is not uniformly transmitted from one end of the femplex to the other. The different parts operate in oblivion to each other, or semi-oblivion to each other, or varying degrees of moral disassociation from each other.
And so, feminism in the sum total of its ideations, actions and consequences, exists as a public object—an object for the world. This means that although the feminists are free to interpret themselves and explain themselves and rationalize themselves and change their disguise as often as they wish, the non-feminist sector may likewise claim as much expertise about feminism as any feminist might claim. Feminism is by default an object for the world because it is not and cannot be—consistently, rationally or honestly—an object for itself. We, of the NF sector, are free to be scientists who analyze feminism and experiment with it, free to be artists who sketch and paint pictures of it, free to be preachers who preach about it, free to be guitar players who write songs about it, free to be MRAs who philosophize about it, free to be comedians who make jokes about it, and so on.
And above all else we are free, upon the strength of independent criteria, to draw conclusions as we see fit regarding the inherent goodness or badness of it. Feminism is an object for the world, but feminism is not the world. It is rather, a portion of the world—but the remaining portion is larger, and entitled to exist, and entitled to a voice upon all matters which vitally pertain to it.
Some people believe that feminism is a good thing. Others believe the contrary, and it is even conceivable that some people would regard feminism as a merely indifferent thing—as I myself once did. Truly there are many shades of belief in this realm of speculation. At all events, the time has come to kick over the traces and open the field to a universal free-for-all. The power of the shibboleth can and must be broken, so let the word feminism be opened to discussion, and let the thing which the word signifies be correspondingly opened to whatever dissection the discussion might entail.
It is clear to the present writer, that feminism on its collective mind level does not genuinely know itself, that it cannot or will not acknowledge the moral variety of its own composition—from whence it follows that feminism cannot accurately assess its own consequentiality in terms of the social ecology. Thus, a critical dimension of understanding has been omitted, and given the nature of the case the task falls upon others to make good this omission. And by "others", I mean people other than feminists; I mean people whose non-inclusion in the feminist enterprise is keenly delineated.
For the truth about feminism can never be known to those who occupy the standpoint of feminist triumphalism; such a standpoint can by its nature never admit the possibility that feminism is other than a good thing. And being incapable of such admission, it follows that the standpoint can never process counter-indicative data in a manner that is intellectually honest. So the standpoint is equipped from the outset with an intellectually dishonest mental filter that colors its entire outlook on the world. We call this mental filter FEMINIST SUBJECTIVISM, and it is a direct consequence of feminist triumphalism.
But in the end, this is very simple. If the bottle contains a few harmless things, and also a few things that might kill you, then answer fast: is the stuff in the bottle good . . . or not good? You should demand, up front, an honest list of ALL the ingredients . . . shouldn't you? And so it is in the battle for feminism's soul. It is the battle of the bottle: the battle to know what is in the bottle and to name what is in the bottle. What, really, is the value of X?
So. . . is feminism a good thing? One must enquire to know what is really in the bottle, for that is the only way one can ever hope to learn. But where to begin?
Begin by floating this query into the world, in whatever manner your ingenuity might suggest, as one of a number of distributed questions that will eventually be so circulated.
Yes, questions are worth as much as answers, for asking the right question is like shaking the answer tree and watching the fruit fall. So propose a question for general consideration. Circulate that question, and by so doing activate the collective mind along the chosen path of enquiry, lighting the way into a targeted zone of discourse. The question becomes a distributed project, with a battery of mental firepower brought to bear upon the task from all directions.
Distributed questions ought to be carefully formulated so as to address structural weak points, and the question whether feminism is a "good thing" answers very much to this purpose.
Is feminism a good thing? The opposing sector will NOT be happy to hear this. It is blasphemy to even intone such a proposal at all, and it will make them madder than a one-legged kangaroo on a skateboard—particularly if the question will not go away! Particularly if the question pops up everywhere, again and again, more and more as time goes by, and always in a voice that is unfailingly nonchalant and blander than butterscotch pudding.
Eventually, the question will settle into the landscape, take root, and grow. Then the culture will not be rid of it, particularly when a popular discourse springs to life around it, and people grow addicted to the liberative enjoyment such discourse introduces into their lives.
Such is the Achilles heel of feminism. To merely pose the question whether feminism is or is not "a good thing" insinuates that it is perfectly acceptable to harbor an unorthodox opinion upon that point—which in turn undermines and problematizes orthodoxy itself. It further insinuates that the realm of non-orthodox sentiment makes a proper field for extended discussion—and who knows, maybe even academic discussion!
One thing, as you see, leads to another. And big things have small beginnings. At any rate it, is certain that you've got to begin somewhere. Not necessarily a single somewhere; it could be a lot of different somewheres in a lot of different places by a lot of different people. But still, the only you that you have. . . is YOU, and you can't spread yourself too thin, so you need to begin at some somewhere . . . and here I have suggested one such somewhere. What counts here is the principle that lies behind this, and the potential utility that lies behind the principle—and I hope that somebody, somewhere, has found inspiration or food for thought in all of this.
I leave you with this parting thought: if the opposing sector is entitled to its fixed idea—that feminism is a good thing—then we of the NF sector are equally but oppositely entitled to our own fixed idea—that feminism is a bad thing, or at least an indifferent thing. And there we sit, like the gingham dog and the calico cat, staring mournfully at one another across the fault-line in our fixities.
But the ball is in their court. The burden is upon them, and they have a choice—not a choice that our side extends as an ultimatum, but rather a choice embedded in the nature of things, a choice that is bigger than all of us.
And that choice is: to Co-Exist, or to Not Exist.
The burden, as I say, is upon them. And if they decline the first option, that is where the hurly-burly begins. ;)
But I would first remind you of the painfully evident: that by the rules of the present age you cannot attack feminism—it is out of bounds to do so, socially prohibited to do so, culturally interdicted to do so. You might as well urinate on the Mona Lisa; such would be the magnitude of the sacrilege. And yet there is no escape-hatch, for to capitulate in despair is not an option, to plead futility is not an option, to turn the other cheek is not an option. Attack you must, or you will BE attacked—and they will slowly, patiently, persistently grind you into sawdust. But you already knew that, didn't you?
So the only way out is forward. We are saddled with the burden of investigation, and the task is twofold. Firstly: we must enquire to know how the world maintains feminism on its altar of untouchable sanctitude. Secondly: we must enquire to know how we might deactivate the mechanism described in the first part.
The investigation gets underway with a simple observation: that the word feminism is a shibboleth. And what is a shibboleth? It is a widely held belief that interferes with the ability to speak or think about things without preconception.
Feminism is not simply a word, it is a hot potato—a word with connotations, a word with baggage, a word with a muddled and controversial belief system standing behind it. And owing to the muddle and controversy, hardly anybody remains entirely rational when the shibboleth is spoken: far too much is at stake for most people to speak or think without preconception! When this word vibrates in the air, you can feel an iron cage sliding into place around people's heads—the clang is nearly audible! In fact, the word is rarely spoken in common settings. But when it is, it normally generates a discomfort zone, at which people will silently agree to "not go there", and quickly change the subject.
A shibboleth is meant to separate one demographic sector from another by means of a test. In the celebrated Old Testament story, wrong pronunciation of this word would betray you as a foreigner. Nowadays, the word feminism serves analogously—although pronunciation is no longer under scrutiny, but rather a psychic undertone that signals membership or non-membership in a certain cultural paradigm. This word (and the emotion it triggers) divides the world into two distinctly polarized sociopolitical groupings—meaning that the ensemble of varied opinions within each group will cluster around the word feminism with a signature unique to that group and markedly unlike the opposing group. The shibboleth separates the oil from the water, due to the feelings and associations it conjures.
In keeping with the system laid down elsewhere, I will call these sociopolitical groupings the feminist sector and the non-feminist sector. The terms establish a polarity, but note that a middle zone lies between the extremities—a non-activated region composed of people who have either no opinion about feminism, or an opinion that leans only weakly in either direction but remains unmarked by appreciable passion. Yet in the fullness of time, owing to certain developments, we may expect this middle zone to grow more and more activated (galvanized) so that a stronger demarcation will emerge between the feminist and non-feminist sectors.
I, the present writer, formerly inhabited that middle zone of lukewarm opinion described above. I am a living case of the transformation that can occur.
The feminist sector morally dominates and intimidates the NF sector by reason of its organization, infiltration of the media, penetration of state apparatus, group consciousness, group solidarity and so on. Therefore the feminist sector enjoys a power advantage. The NF sector submits meekly to a feminist hegemony because, stated simply, it has no collective self-awareness and does not understand the form and structure of the opposing power. Moreover, it is prey to a certain emotion that I will call superstition.
All of these factors (and others) help to explain why it is socially taboo to attack or even mildly criticize feminism—because there is a comparative power vacuum on the NF side, whose only resource is "passive numbers". So the NF sector in its political inertia cannot muster any will-to-assert-the-contrary, and therefore the feminist sector (being the only assertive party) wins by default.
To sum up: feminism is, for the feminist sector, a sacred ox. And heaven help us, but thou shalt not gore the sacred ox! And the followers of this ox have turned their worship into a virtual state religion, a cult whose power, mystery, mana, gravitas, hierophantic mumbo-jumbo and so on have inspired, in the minds of a good many people, the emotion called superstition. All of which is a complicated way of saying that they have arrogated the moral high ground on a dubious warrant, and gulled a lot of people into playing their game.
Understand, that it makes no part of the present talk to enquire into the history behind this. We don't care to know how it came to be this way, but rather how it remains this way. How, we would like to know, does the device sustain and renew itself, day in and day out? The answer is, that feminism occupies the moral high ground by a semantic trick that is simple to comprehend.
Consider once again, that feminism is a sacred ox. In common with cultists everywhere, the followers of this ox-cult have entrusted their lives to the power of a fixed idea—or more accurately many such ideas, but only one of these will concern us now because it is pivotal and uniquely consequential.
Briefly, the worshippers of the feminist ox embrace the fixed idea that "feminism is a Good Thing." The fixed idea makes the sacred ox sacred: it must be a good thing, or why would anybody worship it? This idea is anchored to the bedrock with steel bolts; the thought that feminism could be other than a Good Thing cannot meaningfully exist for them at all! Any such possibility is ruled out of consideration and therefore unavailable for discussion.
Such is the semantic trick. The rest is details, and I will look into some of these.
For many years, the feminists have drilled and instilled the idea that feminism is "pro-woman". That is another way of saying that feminism is a good thing, because pro-woman certainly means good for women. And they so far contrive to sell this idea, that they presume to call themselves the women's movement. In this way, they have stuck a label on a bottle to distract attention from what the bottle actually contains. For if feminism is "pro-woman" (as the label seems to imply), then by clear insinuation it follows that whosoever speaks against feminism is anti-woman.
On the identical principle, I could start a movement called "the good guys". Then I and my "good guys" could be any kind of bastards we wanted to be, and since we were the good guys nobody would dare to speak against us—for that would make them the bad guys, right?
Less hypothetical would be the term "progressive", which is a name that an actual political tribe has bestowed on itself. Clearly, if you aren't one of this tribe, you are regressive, correct? Precious little choice they give you: be one of us, or be damned!
To commandeer the moral high ground by semantical handy-dandy is nothing new. Human beings have been practicing that little dodge for as long as they've been practicing politics, which is a long time. In the case of feminism, the trick is more subtle because unlike (say) "good guys" the term "feminism" carries no self-evidential, or prima facie, recommendation. The idea that feminism is a good thing is a sociological myth that was cemented in place by a lot of work over the years. They had to "make it stick", but they have succeeded, for it is now stuck very well indeed!
So in order to break free from this deceitfully constructed mental log-jam, we need to pose certain questions. For example:
"You say that feminism is pro-woman. But what ELSE is it?"
What's wanted here, is a full disclosure of ingredients: what else is in the bottle? If the feminists are not forthcoming upon this point, then I must make my own examination. And if, having done so, I conclude that feminism ought to be rejected out of hand owing to some other things which it contains, this will shift the burden onto the feminists to rationalize the presence of those other things. At this stage, feminism would need to undergo a self-criticism, an identity crisis, a self-redefinition—or else incur the risk of a wholesale and warrantable repudiation by the non-feminist sector.
To ask "is feminism a good thing?" is very little different than to ask "is X a good thing?" One must enquire to know the value of X—and by that value I mean everything which feminism might plausibly be shown to contain. X means the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, about feminism. The quest for the value of X, and the contest to assign this value, we call the Battle for Feminism's Soul.
In the feminist mind, there is a cognitive disconnection between what feminism means to them, and what feminism is in fact. The shibboleth enforces a deeply-cloven and profoundly consequential split, in feminist cognition, between the subjective and objective dimensions of knowledge. If it often appears that feminists are living in their own world, it is because they are in fact doing so.
The feminists refuse to heed signals from the non-feminist sector, and it does not occur to them that such feedback could be objectively explanatory of the nature of feminism itself. This betrays a one-sidedness, an arrogance, a hubris, a perverse subjectivity. To the feminist mindset, the fixed idea that feminism is a good thing invalidates all contrary data, and by the same stroke it invalidates all human expounders of such data.
Plainly stated, you are worth hearing only insofar as you rubberstamp the feminist worldview. And when push comes to shove, one easily foretells that feminism will try to run non-feminism straight into the ground— for, being feminism, it can scarcely behave otherwise! It is not difficult to discern the shape of feminist meta-ethics, and to fast-forward its probabilities into the future for an extrapolated view of the eventual consequences.
All of this from an ideology which arrogates a universal power of moral explanation. But however far feminism might aspire to become the world, or pretend to be the world, it is in fact not the world. It is only a mental filter, a set of tinted goggles that certain people insist on wearing for personal reasons that would be of scant interest were it not for the political power the illusion has garnered.
So how does this illusion function in practice? By what steps does the believer assemble the illusion in her (or his) mind and then launch it into operation?
Here is the recipe. Begin with the fixed idea that "feminism is a good thing". Once you have that part nailed down, you can directly derail any suggestion to the contrary, because the axiom that "feminism is a good thing" immediately proves those people wrong! Moreover, since they are attacking a good thing, it demonstrates not only that their ideas are wrong, but that they themselves are personally "not right", and therefore cannot possibly have right ideas—because how can "wrong" people have right ideas? Right?
Sounds moronically simple. But since these people are apt to be subtle morons, we must look into some further wrinkles. For example, if some challenger rattles off three or four reasons why feminism is not a good thing, assure the person that the items in question are either a.) not really feminism, or b.) some other kind of feminism (but not your kind!). Then dismiss the subject as quickly as possible, and proceed to "accentuate the positive" by lauding the merits of your feminism, while paying no further mind to your challenger's objections, and indeed washing your hands of those objections altogether.
Finally, bask in the warm afterglow of knowing that feminism is a good thing after all, and that while those who challenge it aren't necessarily "bad" people, they are most certainly deluded people, and that if they pig-headedly insist on being deluded even after you have kindly set them straight, then yes, they really are bad people. But either way, bad or merely deluded, they are not to be taken seriously and must eventually be "corrected" in one way or another.
Such is the power of the shibboleth; such is the power of the fixed idea. So it becomes a serious question whether such people as feminists should enjoy an unlimited license of self-definition or self-interpretation. Why should this thing called feminism be only what these people called feminists would have us believe it is? Are these people called feminists the only people with eyes to see, and brains to think? Are they? And are these people called feminists really thick enough to think that the rest of us are so thick that we can draw no intelligent conclusion about what feminism is? They must think we're jolly thick, all right!
When hard-pressed, many a standard feminist will fall back upon the dictionary definition of feminism:
feminism n. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.
As you'll have noted, there is a glaring cognitive disconnection between the term and the definition which follows. But that aside, the definition itself is not particularly enlightening. Admittedly, it sounds like a good thing. But otherwise it sounds fuzzy, open-ended and evasive. It is a writhing octopus of multivalencies, and so full of holes that you could drive a fleet of trucks through and steal the furniture along the way. But here, let's try a second definition, albeit one that you won't find in any dictionary:
feminism n. Anything that strengthens women at the expense of men.
There is, on the surface of the case, no special reason to favor the first definition over the second. And the second, unlike the first, is "tight as a drum", with a somewhat operational, even algorithmic character that might be expected to generate a more convergent body of solutions. If you are a feminist, you might not like the second definition (because it sounds shameful), but mere subjective distaste would not be adequate to rule out the veracity or utility of it.
But the first definition more usefully captures the spirit of understanding common to feminist-inclined people, male and female alike. When you probe such people as to the meaning of feminism, you will find that feminism is little more to them than a golden word with a halo of emotions and talking-points clustered around it. Yet despite their manifest want of cogent knowledge, these people are unanimous upon the fixed idea that feminism is a good thing.
Now turn your gaze from the common roads of life to the recondite world of feminist academia. What do you find? The identical fixed idea that feminism is a good thing, but with this difference, that the fixed idea is elaborately camouflaged beneath a gloss of educated terminology. Yet more concerningly, (and quite unlike the discourses of common life) you will find in feminist academia both a keen understanding of what the second definition implies, and a stubborn determination to suppress the damaging consequences for feminism which arise from such implications. The academic feminists know perfectly well what is going on, and they work to spackle this over by a game of theory-building that never ends. Plainly stated, the job of feminist academia is to bamboozle us with smokescreens and give us the runaround ad infinitum, so that the truth will not emerge.
Among both commoners and academics, the fixed practice is to disallow any critique of feminism on the ground that such criticism attacks a good thing. The academics, however, take it a step further when they aggressively devise sophisticated intellectual strategies to counteract and eventually "correct" the non-feminist elements who voice such criticisms. But in either case, the feminists operate from a standpoint of FEMINIST TRIUMPHALISM—which means the dogmatic conviction that feminism has achieved an objective moral triumph absolved from all further discussion. Such is their fixed idea; such is the pivot-point on which their world turns.
Here again we contemplate the Battle for Feminism's Soul. This is high drama. The adherents of feminism believe that they have triumphed, that the world rightfully belongs to them, that they may rightfully extend feminist custodialism and feminist tutelage into every possible corner of life by means of perpetual revolution, until nothing in the world lives independently of feminism—at which point feminism (at least in theory) will become the world. Yet the grubby truth is, that feminism is only a balloon waiting to die of overinflation. And in the aftermath of that messy explosion, the timeless world that we have always known—albeit in a damaged condition—will go on as we have always known it. Brief indeed, shall be feminism's eternity.
The battle for feminism's soul means the power to speak the final word, or the controlling word, on what feminism objectively IS. . . or isn't. Consider: if somebody had the power to describe and evaluate you in whatever terms they saw fit, and upon so doing their word about you became THE truth about you, then in a very practical sense you might say that your soul was no longer in your own keeping.
The NF sector now has the controlling word on what feminism objectively is or isn't. The feminists may natter at will, about us and about our world; they may pontificate and palaver; they may undertake to bind us in elaborate skeins of academic theory and recursive doubletalk. But this is all in vain because we now have the power to rip their cobwebs asunder. It is as simple as making up our minds to do so, and then doing so. And what is holding us back? Cobwebs!
The feminists insist that feminism is objectively a good thing and yet invariably something is wrong, because they can never tell you the whole truth about feminism. They themselves—or most of them at any rate—demonstrably have no clear idea what feminism is at all. And yet they have the crust to say, or to imply, or to assume, that feminism is a good thing. But how can they possibly know this? They have no better warrant for such knowledge than their fixed determination to believe at all costs, and in the face of all contrary argument.
There is one group of feminists (the majority) who cannot cogently explain what feminism IS. There is another group who can indeed do so, yet cannot cogently rationalize the adverse consequences which their explanation might generate. And there is a final group which rationalizes those adverse consequences only by militantly shifting the blame onto men and absolving women of virtually all moral accountability. (This third group is female supremacist by a de facto process of elimination, because no other endpoint logically coheres with their moral standpoint. )
All of feminism is situated on a slippery slope leading toward female supremacism as a moral endpoint. Note the progression: from those who possess no cogent understanding of what feminism is, to those who do possess such understanding but maneuver to avoid the implications, to those who militantly embrace the implications and damn the torpedoes! These three layers of feminist cognition operate as an integrated cultural organism, with a distribution of functions across many sectors.
That the majority of self-proclaimed feminists would not appreciate hearing such things, will not deter the present writer's assessment. And it is upon precisely the foundation here suggested, that the NF sector may claim to speak the controlling word about feminism. Feminism as a whole has no unified conscious knowledge of itself as a whole—meaning that feminist self-knowledge is not uniformly transmitted from one end of the femplex to the other. The different parts operate in oblivion to each other, or semi-oblivion to each other, or varying degrees of moral disassociation from each other.
And so, feminism in the sum total of its ideations, actions and consequences, exists as a public object—an object for the world. This means that although the feminists are free to interpret themselves and explain themselves and rationalize themselves and change their disguise as often as they wish, the non-feminist sector may likewise claim as much expertise about feminism as any feminist might claim. Feminism is by default an object for the world because it is not and cannot be—consistently, rationally or honestly—an object for itself. We, of the NF sector, are free to be scientists who analyze feminism and experiment with it, free to be artists who sketch and paint pictures of it, free to be preachers who preach about it, free to be guitar players who write songs about it, free to be MRAs who philosophize about it, free to be comedians who make jokes about it, and so on.
And above all else we are free, upon the strength of independent criteria, to draw conclusions as we see fit regarding the inherent goodness or badness of it. Feminism is an object for the world, but feminism is not the world. It is rather, a portion of the world—but the remaining portion is larger, and entitled to exist, and entitled to a voice upon all matters which vitally pertain to it.
Some people believe that feminism is a good thing. Others believe the contrary, and it is even conceivable that some people would regard feminism as a merely indifferent thing—as I myself once did. Truly there are many shades of belief in this realm of speculation. At all events, the time has come to kick over the traces and open the field to a universal free-for-all. The power of the shibboleth can and must be broken, so let the word feminism be opened to discussion, and let the thing which the word signifies be correspondingly opened to whatever dissection the discussion might entail.
It is clear to the present writer, that feminism on its collective mind level does not genuinely know itself, that it cannot or will not acknowledge the moral variety of its own composition—from whence it follows that feminism cannot accurately assess its own consequentiality in terms of the social ecology. Thus, a critical dimension of understanding has been omitted, and given the nature of the case the task falls upon others to make good this omission. And by "others", I mean people other than feminists; I mean people whose non-inclusion in the feminist enterprise is keenly delineated.
For the truth about feminism can never be known to those who occupy the standpoint of feminist triumphalism; such a standpoint can by its nature never admit the possibility that feminism is other than a good thing. And being incapable of such admission, it follows that the standpoint can never process counter-indicative data in a manner that is intellectually honest. So the standpoint is equipped from the outset with an intellectually dishonest mental filter that colors its entire outlook on the world. We call this mental filter FEMINIST SUBJECTIVISM, and it is a direct consequence of feminist triumphalism.
But in the end, this is very simple. If the bottle contains a few harmless things, and also a few things that might kill you, then answer fast: is the stuff in the bottle good . . . or not good? You should demand, up front, an honest list of ALL the ingredients . . . shouldn't you? And so it is in the battle for feminism's soul. It is the battle of the bottle: the battle to know what is in the bottle and to name what is in the bottle. What, really, is the value of X?
So. . . is feminism a good thing? One must enquire to know what is really in the bottle, for that is the only way one can ever hope to learn. But where to begin?
Begin by floating this query into the world, in whatever manner your ingenuity might suggest, as one of a number of distributed questions that will eventually be so circulated.
Yes, questions are worth as much as answers, for asking the right question is like shaking the answer tree and watching the fruit fall. So propose a question for general consideration. Circulate that question, and by so doing activate the collective mind along the chosen path of enquiry, lighting the way into a targeted zone of discourse. The question becomes a distributed project, with a battery of mental firepower brought to bear upon the task from all directions.
Distributed questions ought to be carefully formulated so as to address structural weak points, and the question whether feminism is a "good thing" answers very much to this purpose.
Is feminism a good thing? The opposing sector will NOT be happy to hear this. It is blasphemy to even intone such a proposal at all, and it will make them madder than a one-legged kangaroo on a skateboard—particularly if the question will not go away! Particularly if the question pops up everywhere, again and again, more and more as time goes by, and always in a voice that is unfailingly nonchalant and blander than butterscotch pudding.
Eventually, the question will settle into the landscape, take root, and grow. Then the culture will not be rid of it, particularly when a popular discourse springs to life around it, and people grow addicted to the liberative enjoyment such discourse introduces into their lives.
Such is the Achilles heel of feminism. To merely pose the question whether feminism is or is not "a good thing" insinuates that it is perfectly acceptable to harbor an unorthodox opinion upon that point—which in turn undermines and problematizes orthodoxy itself. It further insinuates that the realm of non-orthodox sentiment makes a proper field for extended discussion—and who knows, maybe even academic discussion!
One thing, as you see, leads to another. And big things have small beginnings. At any rate it, is certain that you've got to begin somewhere. Not necessarily a single somewhere; it could be a lot of different somewheres in a lot of different places by a lot of different people. But still, the only you that you have. . . is YOU, and you can't spread yourself too thin, so you need to begin at some somewhere . . . and here I have suggested one such somewhere. What counts here is the principle that lies behind this, and the potential utility that lies behind the principle—and I hope that somebody, somewhere, has found inspiration or food for thought in all of this.
I leave you with this parting thought: if the opposing sector is entitled to its fixed idea—that feminism is a good thing—then we of the NF sector are equally but oppositely entitled to our own fixed idea—that feminism is a bad thing, or at least an indifferent thing. And there we sit, like the gingham dog and the calico cat, staring mournfully at one another across the fault-line in our fixities.
But the ball is in their court. The burden is upon them, and they have a choice—not a choice that our side extends as an ultimatum, but rather a choice embedded in the nature of things, a choice that is bigger than all of us.
And that choice is: to Co-Exist, or to Not Exist.
The burden, as I say, is upon them. And if they decline the first option, that is where the hurly-burly begins. ;)
Labels: battle for feminism's soul, feminist subjectivism, non-feminist sector



24 Comments:
Oh, you wonderful man. You have given such great thought to this and look to what you can do with your thought. You are so special.
I need to come back to this.
But I want to ask something of you. It will help us. I know it.
Can you go onto AM and get haahoo here before he gets himself banned again. Genius comes in many forms. Often they are misunderstood.
He has so much to offer but is soooo unchallenged. I figure more as I get to understand myself about the net.
Pretty, pretty please. Sugar on top and all the rest. I don't care how feminine that may be or manipulative. We all have to find where we belong in this. He has a place. He is a good man too! You just have to have xray eyes. lol
CF, OK, read your post. I hope they come to answer you.
I don't want to spoil this. (smile)
"You have given such great thought to this and look to what . . ."
Baloney! This post is waaaay too long. I got carried away — almost like I was channeling an alien spirit! I'm not sure what came over me.
Wrote amazingly fast, too. . .
I think I can edit this, and make it 50 percent shorter without sacrificing anything critical. . .
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hahoo? haHOO??
What do ya want me to do about this person? Je ne comprend pas. . .
Yes, it's a good piece. Yes, it's too long. Yes, you could edit it to one-half or one-quarter the length without losing any impact.
OK, are you sure about hearing criticism about your post? Like:... you think you are not fun but it is fun to be honest with one another. IMO.
I am confused about this move of men's emotions.
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hahoo? haHOO??
What do ya want me to do about this person?
Just invite him. He is an adaptive person. He has also studied socialist papers. AM is not equipped to handle a man like him. They don't have the time.
No matter what environment you put him in he will adapt.
But one thing he is for sure .... he is the ground swell. Obama is encouraging fathers to become involved with their children just like NZ and Sweden. The reason they are doing this is because men are not fighting their women folk. So now the chase is on to get the men involved. The whole equal parenting depends on getting men like him involved. If you want to win a war then you need to understand what he is saying.
Fidelbogen,
Your post reminds me of our earlier comparison between ideological feminism and fundamentalist religion. Appeals to the bandwagon assume the rightness of joining it. The corollary is also taken to be true: If you don't join, convert, agree, you are bad, out of sync, prejudiced, etc.
As I've made clear elsewhere, I disagree with feminist assumptions about the nature and history of the relations between men and women.. The feminist narrative relies on commonly accepted platitudes. "Women had no say," "women were under foot," "women were slaves, sex objects, second class citizens, mere property, etc." These simplisms encourage an overly oppressed view of women and an unfairly abusive view of men..... with the full complicity of women in the traditional civil and moral order of things ignored.
Feminists would have it that women have been ever railing against the "system" while men have eternally conspired to hold them down. The facts, of course, are otherwise. Most women, no less than most men, have taken the given ethos of their time to be natural. Enough said.
Lastly, feminism is essentially blame theory. As such, no right has been more precious than the right to view women as an oppressed class and no effort has been spared in reifying this view. We have all heard the friendly and reasonable public goals of feminism such as the equal right to education, the right to vote and the right to own property independent of men. Of course, all these goals were achieved in Western countries long before most feminists were even born, which raises the question why the feminist movement simply doesn't just congratulate itself and happily disband. But Noooooooo! as John Belushi used to say on Saturday Night Live. Feminine bile and resentment have yet to be satiated. If that's possible. And nothing less than a revolution will do. The "patriarchy" must die! Women must assume full parity with men in both status and achievement as their glory are the real objects of feminine envy. Until that day, men will be objects of scorn, subject to an ongoing investigation into every slight a man may cause his significant other, supported with endless statistics of abuse.
To qoute from F. H. Cowles, Gaius Verres,
An Historical Study
"Ridicule is often the only weapon remaining to conscious inferiority."
BTW: It's my 56th birthday.. :)
@MartyLee:
Happy Birthday!! :))
@Julie:
I sent a PM to Haahoo. . .
Hi, haahoo here, the artist formerly known as Drex, FFFF, Kangarude, Knight4mares etc..
I come in and out of "the movement" regularly owing to the fact that I get incredibly frustrated with the way things go and the way folk behave in the movement..
Sometimes I despair for the movement, I seriously doubt it really has niether the destination nor the direction properly identified in the main.
There are quite a few respectably and well rounded writers, but many of them have "fatal flaws" that undercut their effectiveness.
I noted the article you posted (and the pm) on AM and found it very good. (Long, but all good!)..
I have seen other articles you have written that are very good too..
Identification of the STATE as the main enemy we have to deal with and that the STATE is the "big stick" wielded by an otherwise ineffective feminism movement that uses the power of the MANGINA and the ignorant masses of male wage-slaves and tax payers to DESTROY FAMILIES as its fundamental aim is what I tend to concentrate on..
Too many "mens" forums are working in the misguided belief that the state can be used to counter the effects of feminism..
This is like trying to balance a scale that has too much wieght on one side by adding more wieght to the other..
which is impossible when one considers that all the energies are already working flat out to provide for the gold bullion on the feminist side of the scales, there is not enough surplus resources to add to the other side too!
So, to even the scales by adding more to the other side, we must work much harder, just to find a balance, then, we have given the scales of justice and power all we have, they now have the results of all of work and we have none!
The agents of redistribution will take their own fees, and we will have handed them our own destiny and ceded our powers to them..
They wanted the state to control men..
We allowed that..
We work and pay for that..
Now we want the state to control them (feminists?) so we have to work and pay for that..
So we all become controlled..
Nah, its bullshit!!
To even the scales, to get our bullion back..
We need to take it OFF the side that is demanding it..
The fastest way of doing that is to stop forging the bullion for them!!
The state will lose its income (tax revenues, work etc), the feminist machine will exhaust their resources provided from the state scales on injustice..
Balance will again be found, and it may be at a lower economic level, but then it can be rebuilt only when the terms of the movement become agreeable to the work horses that provide for the excess resources..
I am not sure that that makes any sense, but fundamentally, feminism is ANTI-FAMILY more than anything else..
Feminism is incorrectly percieved as an "anti-male" movement, but it cannot be logically anti-male when it NEEDS males to prop it all up!!
Sadly, it seems almost as many MRA's as feminists are anti family too.. (In deeds and actions, as can be indentified in many ways.. though they often nearly talk the correct talk, they DONT walk the correct walk!)
The similarities between many mra movements and feminists are frightening when one delves deep enough into them..
Indeed, even some apparently "hard" MRA's and proclaimed libertarians expose fatal flaws that link them almost hip to hip with feminists in a perversely paradoxical and deadly symbiotic relationship..
Just looking at myself, I see a man who thrives under extreme feminist idealogy with as much ease, if not more, as I would under any other social system..
Its not what i want my kids to have to adapt to though..
Most of us where not born with the dubious gift of state-declarable insanity which, when coupled with a rare genius, can be used as a very effective tool to not only starve the state beast but also rapidly weaken it by massively draining it by thriving under its own recursive terms!!
My suggestions..
1. DONT fight feminists, ignore them!!
2. DO fight the state, (they provide the power for feminists) but learn how to do it effectively..
3. The state needs work and tax revenues.. MINIMISE or even eliminate this from your personal life.. STARVE the beast!!
4. MAXIMISE the drainage on the state. MAKE THEM PAY!! HURT THE BALANCE BOOKS!!
5. Encourage DIRECT actions that cost the state and their supporters dearly.. Anything that needs a big turnout of police or other MANGINA MUSCLE detracts form the budgets that support feminism..
6. Target MANGINA MALES primarily as THEY are the LACKEYS that enforce and provide for feminisms perversities.. They CAN be re-educated.. (most mras seem to be former manginas, sad fact, but they are usually NOT FULLY de-programmed..)
7. SUPPORT the family and regard the family as the ESSENTIAL SOCIAL UNIT.. TARGET everything that goes against the idea that the family is NOT in need of routine state interference..
8. DO NOT make the mistake of believing in the concept of "rights".. They must all be state provided, hence, that is a statist tool for control, they also DONT actually live up to their promises anyway!
9. In addition to 8, ESPECIALLY never consider that CHILDREN have rights.. This is the most EASY TO USE tool of the manipulative state to beat down parents very effectively with.. Also, children cannot effectively deal with such concepts (even less than adults can, and it does not do them any favours to consider their "rights!!)
10. Learn to see the mistakes that have been made on a frequent basis by each "generation" of MRA's. Do not repeat them, tempting though some of these mistakes may seem..
@haahoo:
Drex!! Yes, I remember you verrry distinctly. . ;)
You have. . . F4J afiliations, as I recall. . .
You are also, how shall I say it?. .. an extremely prolific writer, and manifestly so. LOL!
In the present case, I fear not only that I couldn't chew what I bit off, but that I can bite off anything at all.
Well, at least not until I have digested it some more. Funny, yes? Digesting BEFORE you bite and chew..?
However, I suppose you would concur that MEN, as a group, must undergo a political awakening of some kind. . . . .?
That does sound like a central boulder of agreement that we might share. . . . .
"feminism n. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes."
^^^
Herein lies the crux of the whole issue.
The 'traditional'(or 'original' or 'benevolent') definition of feminism is based on a flawed belief which is utterly false in reality.
Men and women are not equal. Never have been and never will be. Men are superior to women in many things, and women are superior to men in a few things, one of which is giving birth. But by and large, women are inferior to men.
Imagine the 110m hurdle race and truth is the prize awaiting at the finishing line. A person who acknowledges and believes in gender equality has already tripped over at the first hurdle. This person could be a man, a woman or even some organisation/entity.
You can't say this in public today, because it is politically incorrect. And I suspect the government leans towards feminism because it is politically expedient to do so.
"But by and large, women are inferior to men."
Interestingly, I don't even pretend to know if that statement is right or wrong. Maybe yea, maybe nay. . .
But it makes no difference to my politics either way. The truth, I figure, simply IS what it IS, and it surely needs no help from me in being what it IS. It can fend for itself in that department, yes indeed ;). . .
So I leave this issue up in the air, and in my dealings with women I am careful not to form any preconceptions one way or the other.
What i DO do, is draw boundaries and set standards within the zone of my own existence and my own vital interests— and I leave women entirely free to "transgress" in this realm.
I also leave them entirely free to distinguish themselves and gain highest honors. . .
Equal opportunity, you might say! ;)
Happy belated birthday Marty Lee. I enjoy your contribution. Feminism is a strange movement for sure and your input is pieces to me of a puzzle.
Much of the unhappiness in the world today is not understanding that feminism is a part of it.
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Hahoo, nice of you to touch base. This counter feminist movement is something you can get your teeth into I think. (smile) I thought we may have lost you when Rob Fedders stopped posting.
Now is a time to really get focused. I hope you can help out.
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Anonymous said...
"feminism n. Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes."
I see you have knowledge and wisdom.
But....
Men being better than women.....
C,mon ... please do consider how harmful generalising this way can lose a lot of support. We don't need a sex war. We need a revolution.
CF, this is to help you bite and chew over what hahoo is saying. All the Family Court moves and family moves come from the 70's gangsters. Yes, hippies are a gang too.
9. In addition to 8, ESPECIALLY never consider that CHILDREN have rights.. This is the most EASY TO USE tool of the manipulative state to beat down parents very effectively with.. Also, children cannot effectively deal with such concepts (even less than adults can, and it does not do them any favours to consider their "rights!!)
The implementation of everything going wrong has been happening since the 80's.
Men and women either get on board with this movement or they don't. The cost so far has been horrific.
The child is at the centre of everything is what all this feeds on. Not women.
Here is a PDF from the head of the family court in 2001. Notice how feminism owns this movement.
http://tinyurl.com/86btwa
One feminist who has a big part to play in this seems to be...
Nancy E Dowd, Professor of Law in the University of Florida
Men, patriarchy and masculine characteristics have predominantly been examined within feminist theory as a source of power, domination, inequality and subordination. Various theories of inequality have been developed by feminists to challenge and reveal structures and discourses that reinforce explicitly or implicitly the centrality of men and the identity of the top of a hierarchical power and economic structure as male.
The study of masculinities has been inspired by feminist theory to explore the construction of manhood and masculinity, and to question the real circumstances of men. It has explored how privilege is constructed, and what price is paid for privilege. Masculinities study challenges an essentialist portrait of men. Instead of seeing men as a single entity, and only described in terms of dominance and power, the study of masculinities reveals ways in which the dominant gender system subordinates and differentiates among men.
OK, I know you know far more than I on this sort of stuff. But I think the implementation is vital for you to know also.
There is so much going on that all of it needs to come together.
BTW, Merry Xmas.
The natural progression of those who seek to understand what is happening in the mens movement seems to be as follows..
1. Realisation that fathers are being shafted by the family courts..
2. Realisation that feminism is behind much of this..
3. The final realisation that feminism is simply a tool used by the elite state controllers in order to break the family and create the State-individual deal..
Most activists dont get beyond the first stage, because, largely, they fear challenging their own indoctinations and beliefs that they have swallowed in their earlier years.. I.E. that feminism is "good"..
Those that realise feminism is "not neccesarily good" and that it may even be "bad", seem to not want to challenge the authority of the state, as they dont want to imagine that the state CANNOT deal with the issues effectively, in particularly, it CANNOT live up to the promises its "rights" based culture provides..
The final realisation, that when folk come to they usually give up because it seems hopeless to convince anyone of this given the current levels of state control over the thoughts of the serfs..
The state is not actually anything other than an abstraction created by society, which exists because folk have a need to believe in a power higher than themselves that can "correct" things they themselves cannot..
The "Godvernment" however can and does adapt to the will of the people, but that will must be great, must be powerful and must strike fear into the state, fear of anarchy, of revolution, of heads rolling..
With a mens movement comprising of pitifully few individuals dispersed globally, many of whom wage wars with each other, many feminine influences within that warp the thinking of the men..
We have a problem..
My suggestion as to the way forward is to NOT regard "the movement" as a mens movement, or even an "anti-feminist" movement, but to claim a "family movement" and base it on libertarianism and the strength of natural family values and bonds..
This idea seems popular with 2 types of activists..
1. Myself..
2. Lots of women..
It baffles me why men dont seem to like that approach..??
especially when it can easily be deduced that natural family values do produce male headship in the majority of cases when state interference is minimised..
@haahoo:
"The state is not actually anything other than an abstraction created by society, which exists because folk have a need to believe in a power higher than themselves that can "correct" things they themselves cannot.."
Bingo! They grew weary of living by the code duello and such, so the state became the "special authority" that was licensed to dispense violence in the name of, uh, justice!
I think we agree that The State, as a concept, is deeply problematic. The best DEFINITION of the State which I have ever found is:
"The repository of the power to issue final commands."
For my money, that covers all the bases. It's elegantly simple, and whatever you might wish add is mere detail. . .
(While a person may problematize and abstractionalize the concept of the State in oh-so-many many ways, I believe there is no getting around that "final repository". I cannot doubt the existence of such a thing. . . although it can be difficult to nail down exactly where it dwells. It sometimes coincides with the workings of official government machinery, but other times not. It is sometimes situated inside the geographical boundaries of the "nation-state", but other times not. It's a tricky beast. . .)
"My suggestion as to the way forward is to NOT regard "the movement" as a mens movement, or even an "anti-feminist" movement, but to claim a "family movement" and base it on libertarianism and the strength of natural family values and bonds.."
I think we would agree that whole marriage and family situation is by FAR the premier theatre of action in this "war". I like to call it "the Russian front of the movement".
It is where the feminists have established their main power base. (Their other main power base is at the Universities, and to a lesser degree the school system at large. . .)
I like the idea of using the positive rhetoric of freedom (o.k., I won't say "rights".;). This is a cool move because it is generally a position of strength. . .
Anyhow, why do "men" not go for this? Well, they DO! At least in the USA, the family movement and the fatherhood movement is a large and growing sector.
But I'll concur that men are less likely to get on board with such things than women are. And the reason? Well. . . funny to say, but "family" sounds rather stodgy and boring. It doesn't appeal to their sense of adventure and drama. Especially true for YOUNG men.
What a lot of (young) men crave, is an evil foe to do righteous battle with. And feminism fills the bill very nicely! ;)
Plus, consider the growing number of men who are opting out of marriage and family altogether. A "family movement", for them, just isn't relevant. Furthermore, it is a serious question whether they would have any natural TALENT for such a thing, when their true passion is to slay dragons.
Maybe we should just let them be righteous warriors battling the feminist dragon. . . eh? ;)
It is neat to read discussion between men sometimes. It gives more understanding of what is going on. And the lingo.
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I understand more why we can't have money to help families stay together even for conflict resolution. Everything has to be separate.
Aye, good definition of "the state" there..
As for those who are "opting out", we have to ask "why?"..
And if they dont want families or marraige, then what do they want and why does feminism not provide it for them? (I would think it probably in some perverse way does!)
Men who "opt out" seem to do quite ok under the current climate dont they?
Julie, in your last para, you say there is no money in helping families stay together?
I very much beg to differ in this, there is immense money being spent in SPLITTING families, huge amounts!
Keeping families together is really, bargain of the century if the state wanted to do the few things needed to ensure it!
But, they wont do that because then they would lose their raison d'etre wouldn't they?
The state exists to persuade the masses that they can solve problems, while ensuring that nothing they do ever truly will..
They seek to maintain problems, as it is their stock in trade..
@haahoo:
"As for those who are "opting out", we have to ask "why?"..
And if they dont want families or marraige, then what do they want and why does feminism not provide it for them? (I would think it probably in some perverse way does!)
Men who "opt out" seem to do quite ok under the current climate dont they?"
As for the "why" of this, the classic reply is that marriage and family has become a minefield, a poisonous trap, for men in general. Not a fun thing, so they steer clear.
Of course, the nuances go deep, deep, deep. . .
I like to lurk around on the Marriage Strike forums from time to time. What I read in those places is quite eye-opening, and a lot of the commenters are very intelligent, articulate people.
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I'm not sure what feminism would supposedly "provide" for them, unless you mean perverse psychological incentives (such as those I touched upon in my foregoing comment). Yes, I think that what they (a lot of them anyway) really "want" (at this point) is to rip feminism a new one. I can't exactly say they are wrong to feel that way, seeing how I share those feelings myself! ;)
And I think it is pretty hard to generalize about how this cohort "does" under present conditions. They are hardly a monolithic group, and how well they get on in the world is largely down to personal assets like ambition, initiative, social connections, etc etc....
Some of them seem to be doing fine, others seem to be hanging on by the skin of their fingernails. . .
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"It baffles me why men dont seem to like that approach..??
especially when it can easily be deduced that natural family values do produce male headship in the majority of cases when state interference is minimised.."
Ahhh...yes. A point which I forgot to mention in my foregoing comment. I don't know why; it's the most important point of all. And that is, that men and women have completely different angles on all of this. It's simple:
MEN are the target of anti-male politics, and women are NOT.
Wow. That puts men and women in completely different worlds. (This is a point which I have tried to impress upon Julie over here.;)
Men are fighting a war which the majority of women cannot even begin to comprehend. Existentially speaking, men and women are not on the same page. . .
And we have feminism to thank for this state of things. It has always been the goal of the feminists to alienate men and women from each other (under the color of revolutionary rhetoric, of course!)
And the feminists have succeeded.
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Of related interest would be the following piece which I wrote some months ago:
http://tinyurl.com/a67gz7
CF, do I know enough yet? Do get it?
@Julie:
"CF, do I know enough yet? Do get it?"
I declare. That sounds like a philosophical question. Really, does anybody ever know enough, or ever "get it"?
CF, Ho Hum... (your wonderful words)
You are a rascal CF.
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