False Rape is Red Hot and Getting Hotter
Let me say this. I believe that false accusation of rape is a WORSE crime than rape itself. For one thing, false accusation is a reprehensible lie. And rape, say what you will, is not a lie. Furthermore, the lack of moral conscience inherent to a false accusation is plausibly greater than that involved in raping somebody, since it entails either one, or possibly both, of the following: A) personal malevolence toward the victim, or B) the desire to generate a cover for your own wrongdoing. Rape, by contrast, does not involve B., does not necessarily involve A., and often involves neither of them.
The consequences of a false accusation are, for the victim, potentially far more devastating than the consequences of rape. A rape victim will not be treated as a criminal, not be subjected to the mercies of the prosecutorial system, not be wrongfully sent to prison, not be raped in prison, not have her life destroyed, and not be made to register as a sexual offender. The rape victim will possibly (though not necessarily) suffer emotional distress whose degree may vary quite a bit. Additionally, the rape victim will possibly (though not necessarily) become pregnant or contract a sexually transmitted disease. Most or all of these consequences are, however, remediable, and not of a magnitude comparable to what the victim of a false accusation would suffer. A rape victim can easily gain sympathy, pick up the pieces, and live a normal life again; such a victim is not stigmatized. On the other hand, a victim of false accusation will struggle to gain sympathy, and will live as a marked man for the rest of his days.
Considering the possible consequences to the victim, and considering that the false accuser is likely to be aware of these, it is plausible to argue that false accusation is the manifestation of an inherently more evil, or "sociopathic", personality. The victim of false accusation, on the other hand, will likely be any old good-natured "chump" who was in the wrong situation at the wrong time.
Since we are not required to endorse feminist rape theory, I will lean to the intuitive and simple, and postulate that the average rapist rapes because he seeks sexual gratification. He wants to get his rocks off. And I can demonstrate the likelihood of this very simply, to wit: that tumescence of the virile member argues, ipso facto, a condition of sexual excitement. Now, while it is certainly not a crime to seek sexual gratification, the rapist goes about this in an unethical manner proscribed by law—that is what makes his action criminal. However, it is important to bear in mind that the rapist seeks only his momentary selfish pleasure, whereas the false accuser of rape is not only aware that her action might have irremediable long-term consequences for the victim, but is in many cases malignantly determined to inflict those very same consequences.
Once again, I would remind you that the victim of false rape accusation suffers worse consequences than does the genuine rape victim. A classic feminist rejoinder would be, that "men cannot possibly know how it feels to be raped". My reply to that would be two-fold. Firstly, that the administration of criminal justice should not be grounded in such intangible subjective, and finally irrelevant criteria. And secondly, that if men cannot know how it feels to be raped, it is equally true that women cannot know how it feels to be falsely accused of rape. Furthermore, what the victim of false accusation suffers contains more of the tangible and objective—which is why we can evaluate it as tangibly and objectively worse.
Finally, I should touch upon a rather fine-spun argument that some might try to launch against me. It might be argued, that I have only spoken of the social consequences (to the victim) of false rape accusation, and that by so doing I have obfuscated the purely inherent evil of such an offense, and thereby established the basis for a false comparison between rape and false rape accusation.
But this argument, being fine-spun, is made of delicate tissue that quickly goes to pieces. For in this case, to take away the social consequences (to the victim) of false accusation, would be identical with taking away the punitive consequences—for in the event, the two are inseparable. And if, having done this, you set rape and false rape accusation side-by-side in their abstracted purity in order to evaluate them in a "pure" way, you thereby negate the possibility of any comparative moral evaluation. It would be as good as allowing that rape accusation (false or otherwise) would factualistically have no consequences, and once you took THAT idea on board, you would have no choice but disallow (for consistency's sake) any moral imperative that rape itself should generate punitive consequences!
Which means, that you will have shot yourself in the foot at the starting block. So, if you had any thought of arguing along the line which I've dismantled here, I would advise you to scrap that plan.
In conclusion, as stated initially, I believe that false accusation of rape is a worse crime than rape itself. I aver this principally for two reasons. Firstly: that the suffering of the victim is—by any tangible, objective standard of evaluation—likely to be greater. And secondly: that the offense flows from an inherently more culpable state of mind.
Thus, false accusation of rape is the greater sin; the "greater of two evils."
I believe it is time to come down hard on false rape accusers. Really hard! And I believe it is time to shatter the silence on this presently taboo subject. Really shatter it! We must break the choke-hold which radical feminists and their political allies currently enjoy in the realm of public discourse. We must drag them off-stage, kicking and screaming, with the old vaudeville hook! Either that, or plaster them with rotten tomatoes.
Real victims of rape, if they are really telling the truth, should have nothing to fear. The worst that could happen, is that their case will be thrown out for lack of evidence. But if they are lying, they should expect to be publicly humiliated and then trucked away to the penitentiary for some extremely hard time.
And if you insist on telling me that false accusation of rape is a "myth", then I would politely recommend that you be crucified upside-down in a barrel of shit.
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And now the good news. False Accusation of Rape a hot issue, about to become explosive. Yes, upon my word, the feminists are about to get their ass roasted and served to them on a paper plate with a side order of french-fries and coleslaw. And they KNOW it!
I send you now to the False Rape Society:
http://tinyurl.com/chub6j
The consequences of a false accusation are, for the victim, potentially far more devastating than the consequences of rape. A rape victim will not be treated as a criminal, not be subjected to the mercies of the prosecutorial system, not be wrongfully sent to prison, not be raped in prison, not have her life destroyed, and not be made to register as a sexual offender. The rape victim will possibly (though not necessarily) suffer emotional distress whose degree may vary quite a bit. Additionally, the rape victim will possibly (though not necessarily) become pregnant or contract a sexually transmitted disease. Most or all of these consequences are, however, remediable, and not of a magnitude comparable to what the victim of a false accusation would suffer. A rape victim can easily gain sympathy, pick up the pieces, and live a normal life again; such a victim is not stigmatized. On the other hand, a victim of false accusation will struggle to gain sympathy, and will live as a marked man for the rest of his days.
Considering the possible consequences to the victim, and considering that the false accuser is likely to be aware of these, it is plausible to argue that false accusation is the manifestation of an inherently more evil, or "sociopathic", personality. The victim of false accusation, on the other hand, will likely be any old good-natured "chump" who was in the wrong situation at the wrong time.
Since we are not required to endorse feminist rape theory, I will lean to the intuitive and simple, and postulate that the average rapist rapes because he seeks sexual gratification. He wants to get his rocks off. And I can demonstrate the likelihood of this very simply, to wit: that tumescence of the virile member argues, ipso facto, a condition of sexual excitement. Now, while it is certainly not a crime to seek sexual gratification, the rapist goes about this in an unethical manner proscribed by law—that is what makes his action criminal. However, it is important to bear in mind that the rapist seeks only his momentary selfish pleasure, whereas the false accuser of rape is not only aware that her action might have irremediable long-term consequences for the victim, but is in many cases malignantly determined to inflict those very same consequences.
Once again, I would remind you that the victim of false rape accusation suffers worse consequences than does the genuine rape victim. A classic feminist rejoinder would be, that "men cannot possibly know how it feels to be raped". My reply to that would be two-fold. Firstly, that the administration of criminal justice should not be grounded in such intangible subjective, and finally irrelevant criteria. And secondly, that if men cannot know how it feels to be raped, it is equally true that women cannot know how it feels to be falsely accused of rape. Furthermore, what the victim of false accusation suffers contains more of the tangible and objective—which is why we can evaluate it as tangibly and objectively worse.
Finally, I should touch upon a rather fine-spun argument that some might try to launch against me. It might be argued, that I have only spoken of the social consequences (to the victim) of false rape accusation, and that by so doing I have obfuscated the purely inherent evil of such an offense, and thereby established the basis for a false comparison between rape and false rape accusation.
But this argument, being fine-spun, is made of delicate tissue that quickly goes to pieces. For in this case, to take away the social consequences (to the victim) of false accusation, would be identical with taking away the punitive consequences—for in the event, the two are inseparable. And if, having done this, you set rape and false rape accusation side-by-side in their abstracted purity in order to evaluate them in a "pure" way, you thereby negate the possibility of any comparative moral evaluation. It would be as good as allowing that rape accusation (false or otherwise) would factualistically have no consequences, and once you took THAT idea on board, you would have no choice but disallow (for consistency's sake) any moral imperative that rape itself should generate punitive consequences!
Which means, that you will have shot yourself in the foot at the starting block. So, if you had any thought of arguing along the line which I've dismantled here, I would advise you to scrap that plan.
In conclusion, as stated initially, I believe that false accusation of rape is a worse crime than rape itself. I aver this principally for two reasons. Firstly: that the suffering of the victim is—by any tangible, objective standard of evaluation—likely to be greater. And secondly: that the offense flows from an inherently more culpable state of mind.
Thus, false accusation of rape is the greater sin; the "greater of two evils."
I believe it is time to come down hard on false rape accusers. Really hard! And I believe it is time to shatter the silence on this presently taboo subject. Really shatter it! We must break the choke-hold which radical feminists and their political allies currently enjoy in the realm of public discourse. We must drag them off-stage, kicking and screaming, with the old vaudeville hook! Either that, or plaster them with rotten tomatoes.
Real victims of rape, if they are really telling the truth, should have nothing to fear. The worst that could happen, is that their case will be thrown out for lack of evidence. But if they are lying, they should expect to be publicly humiliated and then trucked away to the penitentiary for some extremely hard time.
And if you insist on telling me that false accusation of rape is a "myth", then I would politely recommend that you be crucified upside-down in a barrel of shit.
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And now the good news. False Accusation of Rape a hot issue, about to become explosive. Yes, upon my word, the feminists are about to get their ass roasted and served to them on a paper plate with a side order of french-fries and coleslaw. And they KNOW it!
I send you now to the False Rape Society:
http://tinyurl.com/chub6j
Labels: rape
posted by Fidelbogen at 7:35 PM
14 Comments:
A classic feminist rejoinder would be, that "men cannot possibly know how it feels to be raped".
And my response to that is, BullS*it. How many men are raped in prison every day? Men certainly can know how it feels to be raped.
Fidelbogen, if you haven't seen it yet, check this out. Talk about blowing the, "Women can't rape" garbage out of the water.
http://www.rmdglobal.net/she-stole-my-voice/
E. Steven Berkimer
I must say, Fidelbogen, that my thinking on the relative harms to rape victims and false rape claim victims has been sharply clarified by your post, and I agree with you completely.
It is also interesting that you would post this at this time because I have been building to precisely this same conclusion.
I think we are now ready to cast the political correctness aside about "yes, the accuser needs anonymity," or "yes, we admit underreporting is a problem," or "yes, we need to do more to convict rapists." On and on and on. It's all bullshit. Every bit of it. Whatever merit any of these arguments, and the others, has is outweighed by counterarguments that make a hell of a lot more sense.
Protection of innocent men and boys falsely accused of rape is of far greater importance than convicting rapists. That sums up the principal battle. It is time to show far greater respect for the old Blackstone formulation that it is "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
For too long, too many men have allowed themselves to be shamed by radical feminist shaming tactics from paying sufficient attention to the needs of the falsely accused. These tactics insist that we live in a rape culture where every innocent male must be "part of the solution" or he's a rape enabler (but every female is exempt, by virtue of her gender, from doing anything to prevent rape -- and in fact she is free to put herself in situations that greatly enhance the odds that she'll be raped).
We do not live in a rape culture.
Rape is not rampant.
We live in a false rape culture, where false rape claims are common, and tolerated.
No more.
We must shout, holler, scream and raise hell. No more sacrificing our brothers on their altar of political correctness just because an angry group says we should.
Fidelbogen has thrown down the gauntlet, and I am right there with him.
@PierceH:
"We do not live in a rape culture. "Actually, I would disagree, but in an unexpected way.
In fact, we DO live in a "rape culture". This "rape culture" is a culture created by feminism itself, founded upon the IDEA that we live in a rape culture. That is what makes it a "rape culture". . .
"Fidelbogen has thrown down the gauntlet, and I am right there with him."All my work on this blog, since day number one, has been like throwing down a gauntlet in slow motion. The reason it's in slow motion is, that I want more than just an attitude; I want an analysis. And the analysis has been like a slow, steady, patient build. . .
However, once you've got the analysis part nailed down, you get to have fun with the attitude! ;)
@SBerkimer:
"And my response to that is, BullS*it. How many men are raped in prison every day? Men certainly can know how it feels to be raped."
Let's not forget that the majority of women, who have never been raped, don't know how it feels either. . .
Plus, I would need to insist that prison rape experienced by men is starkly more horrific, on average, than what happens to women in the 'free world'.
Bottom line: Men and women can BOTH experience rape, and it is worse for men.
But: only men experience false accusation of rape.
SO: it looks like males win this particular round of the suffering olympics.
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I think I might order that DVD, by the way. . .
But: only men experience false accusation of rape.
After looking at that link and the DVD, several questions come to mind.
1. When these women are reporting they were raped, who wants to be that those are lumped in to the general rape figures, so that it looks like the number of rapes that men are committing are larger than they actually are? It's the same thing that has happened in the DV sector. It is just reported as DV, and everyone assumes that it is men committing it.
2. How long will it be before we start to see, in these lesbian relationships, false accusations of rape being levied against women? Talk about a bit of poetic justice? And how long after will we start to see the feminist camp then start to complain of the false rape epidemic?
3. How will Feminism deal with this? Since it blows thier man=bad woman=good, "women don't lie about rape", "Men are rapists, that's all they are" narrative right out of the water, I imagine that they will try to suppress this type of information from getting out.
All the best,
E. Steven Berkimer
I agree, I can feel the whole world changing, even if it's only partially in my mind, I can actually FEEL the tides shifting, and they're not letting up.
As a victim of false rape I can say that fidel hits it right on the mark.
Women can cry rape. The male victim is marked for life.
I know this first hand as friends and family watch me when I'm near their children.
One word spoken aloud can really end your life and your standing in society.
Myself, well I fought back, hard.
Never give up or give in.
@SBerkimer:
"I imagine that they will try to suppress this type of information from getting out."
Ahh...but THAT is still waaay down the road for them! The present crisis is the False Rape epidemic that we are presently familiar with, involving men.And I see how they are handling THAT.They want to pass these new measures in order to make the problem "disappear", by "magic"! If most rape defendants quietly get convicted thanks to the tightened system, then no more of these embarrassing stories will get into the media.
Plus, they can pad their rape statistics even more, with all of those extra men they will be sending to jail. It's win-win, 2-birds-with-1-stoner for them!
@AmStrat:
Hey, it may be "in your mind", BUT. . . . if it is in a lot of other people's minds also, then it isn't merely "in your mind": it's something transpersonal and objective. Something larger. . . ;)
@Encryption1:
Thank you for dropping by with your input. It is always useful to hear from somebody who has "been there".
@AmStrat:
I like your cyber-name. Evidently, the idea of Strategy has meaning for you. For me, you could say it is a passion; a driving fascination . . .
. . along with its fraternal twin, Policy.
But finally: The game is the thing! That is my motto. ;)
One of the biggest problems with people understanding the crime(s) of false accusations of any kind is, unless it affects or affects them, it simply " doesn't exist ". I remember talking with someone who is aware of my fight to clear my name after being wrongfully accused of a crime that ,God is my witness, I never committed. I told him about the proof I had just forwarded to the FBI. What he said is typical of many men who have never faced going to prison because of someone telling a lie, " well, we know which way that's going to go". I wonder how he would feel if he were the wrongfully accused and wrongfully punished. Would he still express an attitude of "that's the way it is " or, would he fight back? It is no secret that there is a world of crimes that a man can be accused of and have no way to prove his innocence. If a woman or a child claims you molested them or touched them in a manner that is inappropriate, could you prove they are lying? Not much chance when you life in a world full of witch hunts that are designed to target males. I have said it over and over, " true justice is never satisfied by the suffering, blood or, death of the innocent".
Yet another of the reversals of truth that scream at one in this whole warped power-play is the ease at which rape victims are granted anonymity - on the basis of a stigma that no longer exists - and false rape victims are denied the same, when the evidence of stigma is glaringly obvious.
Hello
I am and Australian who was wrongly accused of Rape and another 9 Felony Charges in USA in 2008… I spent 115 days in a County Prison while the female [minor who advertised herself as 19] on a Adult Dating website was getting all the sympathy from a whole County…
Now I morally was guilty but certainly not legally… For the majority of people who have not been through this degrading experience, I say, ‘ask those who really know what it is like to spend time in Prison for something you did not do’, Yes there are some really nasty peices of crap in society and they deserve to be punished, however when a female or male has wrongly accused someone of rape and it is proven or in my case the female ‘recanted’ her story, well she had to as the Text messages and pc records show she was lying, these people should be charged or given treatment to ensure that there is a deterent to others. I did not get as much as an apology from anybody, and some people say to me ‘take civil action’, sure take civil action so that you go endure all the past again, no thank you! My life was ruined, I say ‘was’ ruined, but I have been lucky to have the best family and friends to lift me up and fowards…
So to all the rule makers and decision makers ‘THINK’ very hard when you make your decisions from your Office, and imagine it is your son,father or husband that has been ‘falsely accused’.
I am writing a Ebook about my experience and it will be out in Sept 09 its called “This, Too, Will Pass”, might just be worth a read people!!! email me on this_too_willpass@hotmail.com if you would like to be included on the list to ensure you know when the Ebook is available
Rick Lee
A rape victim gets fucked for a few minutes. A false accusation victim gets fucked for life.
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