Hey Feminists: Here's Some Stuff About RAPE!
Gang rape of 'infidel' women by young Muslim males seems be a recurrent sport in Europe and other Western areas. And non-Western areas too, undoubtedly. It doesn't yet appear to be happening in the USA. But give it time. . .?Anyhoo. . . the worst of it is, these lads don't even apply the Antioch Dating Code!! :(
Now, you'd think that the social kanker sores. . . er. . . pardon me, the feminists, would be up in arms about this. You would think maybe they'd have a little something to say about it, wouldn't you? Or maybe one hell of a lot to say about it, eh?
Especially considering that here we have a rape phenomenology which evidently IS "all about power" — unlike the generality of rapes. So you'd think that these hypocritical moral cowards. . . er. . . pardon me, the femmeroids, would be all over this . . . wouldn't you?
Nope. They have been oddly, curiously, enigmatically silent. Well no, that's not quite true. Actually, 10 or 12 of them have spoken out very, very loudly upon the subject. But those 10 or 12 are all on the east coast somewhere, and I'm on the west coast, so I reckon their voices haven't reached me quite yet. Yeah. . . that must be it!
And those 10 or 12 individuals must be the same exact ones who have felt morally driven to address the issue of false rape accusation, and to speak out loudly against it. But again, they are so few, so far away, and so far between, that I cannot possibly "hear them roar" — even though I am sure they must be roaring somewhere!
Anyhooo . . . here is more for your reading pleasure. Please do read it; it's worth your while:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5347
http://islam-watch.org/MA_Khan/UncoveredMeat.htm
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Postscriptum: Remember 'The Apostate', whom I wrote about recently (here), and who has a blog HERE?: http://tinyurl.com/mmc5nz
You know, the ex-muslima feminist who made a lateral arabesque from one fanatical dogma to another? Yes. . . HER!
Well, it turns out she is/was a contributor to islam-watch.org (one of the URLS linked above). She made a single contribution, in 2007: a piece entitled "Islam's Lolita", about Mohammed's marriage to his child-bride Aisha. See HERE: http://islam-watch.org/Apostate/islam-lolita.htm
It is mildly interesting, in a feminist-subjective sort of way.
posted by Fidelbogen at 10:37 PM
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A few years ago here in Sydney, Australia, we had a series of gang rapes in which the perps were all muslim boys and the victims were all Anglo Saxon girls. These rapes happened in an are where if you go looking for victims at random you are as likely to bump into Europeans, Asians and Arabs as you are likely to bump into Anglos, yet somehow the victims were all Anglos! How 'bout that? What a coincidence! (Not surprisingly the left wing media largely ignored the racial side of it.) That entire sad affair turned me completely against the idea of multi culturalism, which is basically the idea that you should come to Australia and instead of becoming an Australian you stay an Arab, an Asian etc. Bad idea, obviously, as our first political assassination was commited by a Vietnamese politician and we get riots at soccer matches due to rivalry between serbs and croats an so on -the rapes were just the straw that broke this piggy's back. The US seems to have a more sensible attitude to this, what with the assimilation/melting pot idea, and that may explain why you haven't experienced this yet. I guess what i'm trying to say is, don't go multicultural like Aus and the UK or you will have even more problems to deal with.
I was just thinking that my comment was not the right type of thing to find on a counter feminist site. So I deleted it.
I do agree with you that women need to take more responsibility for women.
@Mareika: Too bad you deleted your comment before I had a chance to read over it again and digest it. I actually found it interesting. I wish you hadn't deleted it! :(
(I was thinking about posting it. .)
**Actually, what I meant to say was that feminists need to take more responsibility for themselves.
@Porky: So. . . it's not just Muslims v. Non-Muslims, but it's even "Europeans" v. "Anglos" sometimes? Truly, the plot thickens!
As for the U.S: Yes, the melting pot idea has been the historical norm, but the multiculturalists are at work here too, trying to change that, and. . making headway - albeit against greater resistance.
Yes: Multiculturalism = Balkanism
News of significance: Muslims in growing numbers, planet-wide, are forsaking Islam. Some by conversion to Christianity, others but simply LEAVING. But either way, the trend is big and getting bigger. . .
It's not a torrential flood yet, but most certainly greater than a trickle.
I have to admit that I was annoyed by this posting. To proffer suggestion like this is as bad as the negative lies and myths spread by feminists who have used lies and cheats to get rape statistics.
Here, you use fear and ignorance.
This posting seems to feed into the negative acceptability of deeming 'all' somebody or other guilty by association. So some muslim men have raped western women. What is the issue here? The wests unbelievably ignorant and media / government fed understanding of Islam? Or maybe ignorance and a desire to point the figure of blame elsewhere? It almost feels like there are packs of muslim men on each street corner just waiting for your wives and girlfriends. Utter piffle.
Rape is the vilest form of violation committed by men or woman against man or woman. The religious beliefs of anybody who commits this abhorrent act is completely irrelevent.
As a none muslim I have chosen to educate myself about Islam. You clearly have chosen to believe what the US UK governments prefer its sheep to believe. ie. whatever they tell you. Surely as a masculist, you should be preventing biggotry not feeding into it.
I agree with Porky.
I think Men First is missing a crucial point. He may wish to educate himself with the Muslim way but it doesn't change him to be a Muslim man from one of their countries and it doesn't mean he was raised by the culture.
In Melbourne, Australia you can't venture into whole suburbs because they are owned by ethnic groups. Muslims, Greeks, Lebanese and so on all have an anti to western women. OK, not all but enough to be of concern. (let's not play dumb here .. some risks are not worth it) You get pretty scared if you catch the wrong train.
But in the city you have the same thing. They all congregate together. You are unsafe as a male and a female.
In NZ... same congregating gang mentality.
Beware even walking down a street and a car load of men or women from a different culture drive by. They will stop and beat you, stab you or shoot you. Rape doesn't seem as bad as it is in Australia but it was once and it will return.
All these feminists in schools as teachers and writers of books and policy workers are too busy trying to find something new to attack so they have a job that the real issues and real concerns are put to the wayside.
Crime hasn't caught up to their thinking. They are living in fairy land with Papa Smurf.
Hey F, maybe you can keep my last comment out. (please)
I am just bored.
@MenFirst:
The issue is not really Islam at all, but feminism. The feminists are very oddly 'selective' about where they direct their attention, and where they don't direct it. They are loud about some things, quiet about others, and this pattern of speech and silence should be examined, and called to the attention of the world at large. Which I have tried to do here, on a small scale. So (theoretically at least), let the feminists squirm like toads on a hotplate! ;)
**If these behaviors flow from a certain cultural narrative (as seems to be the case here), then I am bound to admit that "religious belief" indeed IS relevant, meaning, it is a factor of significance and potentially revelatory. But again, the point of interest is the feminist non-response (or faint response) to this repeated pattern of events.
In the past, they've gotten far more worked up about far less than this. . . and I am bound to wonder out loud about it, and by so doing, to help the wonderment circulate more widely.
**The political Left is notorious for ignoring/downplaying/rationalizing evils which flow from a 'non-western' source. And the feminists (who are embedded in the Left) act analogously, in parallel, when they downplay evils which flow from a non-MALE source. In the case we are now considering, this generates a conflict, leading to an inconsistency in feminist response. And if I had to proffer an instant theory, I would call it 'political advantage maximization'.
**I have of course educated myself about Islam (the Koran being among my studies, in addition to the pages of history at large).
I am also aware that packs of muslim men do not lurk on every street corner: there are too many street corners in the world for that, and so they would spread themselves too thin! And further, having lived in New York City for a time, and having wandered in that metropolis at all hours of the day and night, I do have some sense of how these things work. ;)
**Finally, I should remark that there is no official "profile" of Islam being issued by "the government". Information about Islam trickles into the general awareness from a number of competing sources, each with its own agenda, its own axe to grind, and the "government" per se isn't "feeding" anything in particular. (Well, maybe parts of it are. And the information thus purveyed is as likely to be prejudicially favorable as unfavorable. There are many ways to make a sheep of yourself, but the surest way of all is to take either side of any highly polarized debate uncritically.)
Which is something I try to avoid, even if it tends to puts me in the crossfire. . . :(
**Finally, "masculist" is not a term which I apply to myself. In fact, I reject that word. I prefer to call myself a NON-FEMINIST.
(Or a 'counter-feminist'. ;)
@Mareika:
Give me one good reason why I should leave out that comment as you requested......
It was a good one, so . . . maybe I should just let you delete it? ;)
Men First,
I believe your assessment of the intent of this post was incorrect.
I don't believe the aim of the post was to insinuate that all Muslims are capable of these things (for we know that only a small number of people,people of psychopathic bent, are capable of this kind of mindless brutality), but to point out the readily observable fact that feminists don't seem to care about "male patriarchal violence against women" when such violence is framed in the context of the circumstances the author outlined.
He wasn't trying to demonize Muslims,in my opinion. He was simply trying to point out that feminists weren't concerned about REAL violence, violence that actually IS committed by "patriarchal" males with the stated intent of oppressing women.
@fidelbogen
'but it's even "Europeans" v. "Anglos" sometimes'
Not quite, what i wrote was "rivalry between serbs and croats and so on" In other words, one type of European against another type of European. With both the European and Asian waves of immigration there were very minor problems, but with the Muslim immigrants it's been a hundred times worse. Unlike the Asians and Europeans they seem to number one, refuse to fit in (aided and abetted by the policy of multiculturalism) and number two believe they are better than the rest of us, no doubt because we are infidels.Obviously of course, this is true of a troublesome minority of muslims, but they are no less muslim than they are a minority.
@F,
maybe I should just let you delete it?
OK. I sort of feel this is a sensitive subject so I am unsure what is acceptable to say. I haven't seen anyone be so open about this before.
This is a very bad post, written in the very same way that feminists talk about Men: dumping them all together and spreading lies about them. I agree totally with Men First's post. And btw, about the Islam's growth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXT8ObyIW7Y
-MRA
One more thing: im italian. The first group of immigrants here responsible for rapes and violent assaults are Romanians, which are basically all Ortodox Christians. I never saw, though, a picture of the many women raped by these Ortodox Christans, and the text saying "Victim of Ortodox Christianity Gang Rape in Italy".
We, as MRAs, should be more honest in the way we conduct our fight against Feminism, and not use the same dishonest weapons that feminists uses against us. Not against atheists, christians, jews or even our muslims BROTHERS.
-MRA
"This is a very bad post, written in the very same way that feminists talk about Men: dumping them all together and spreading lies about them."
Yes. i DO dump all feminists together, because I dump FEMINISM together. They have the choice, to CALL themselves "feminists". . . or to call themselves something else. If they are wise, they will make the wise choice. And if they don't, then sorry, I haven't got much sympathy. :(
And no, I do not "spread lies" about feminISM. Nor do I spread lies (libel) about (individual) feminists. As anybody who reads carefully will discover. . .
Maybe those Orthodox gang rapes should get more press: I would be interested to see the (international) feminist reaction to THAT, compared to the better publicized Muslim rapes we've all heard about. I'm sure that it (the feminist reaction) would be an informative spectacle whichever way it rolled. . .
Interesting fact emerging from our attempt at evaluating an index for the status of men.
Female participation rates in universities are highest in the Middle East, with attendances above 75% (!!!) in Qatar and the UAE. Bahrain and Kuwait are not far behind. Even Saudi Arabia has higher female participation at teriary level than the US (and the US is heavily skewed in favour of females).
Source: Nationmaster
The Middle East is not one big bad patriarchy - women have power there, and they're doing just fine. Their lives are arguably much better than the men's, especially in those countries which conscript all men and seem to be in never-ending civil war.
Don't believe any of the impressions you may have of the world as presented by the MSM (and that's hard to do, I know). Feminists have so thoroughly infiltrated our information sources that what we think we know is just someone else's recycled bias.
As Lord Rutherford said, until we can measure something - put numbers to it - we are only in possession of a very poor sort of knowledge.
We men have to crawl out of our uninformed, cozy view of the world framed by others and start building our own world view based on measurable fact. Until then, the ladies have the floor.
(Status Of Men Index)
"One more thing: im italian."
Benvenuto,camerata!Those "Romanians" you referenced are really Gypsies or "Rom."Not Orthodox Christians.Furthermore,blacks/Arabs/Moslems do a fair amount of raping in their own right.A presto!
This is blown out of proportion. Also, Muslim treatment of women is not our concern; it is feminists.
"The US seems to have a more sensible attitude to this, what with the assimilation/melting pot idea"
Don't you see. Multiculturalism and melting pot are the same thing?
It's a fantasy differentiation.
"**Finally, I should remark that there is no official "profile" of Islam being issued by "the government". Information about Islam trickles into the general awareness from a number of competing sources, each with its own agenda, its own axe to grind, and the "government" per se isn't "feeding" anything in particular. (Well, maybe parts of it are. And the information thus purveyed is as likely to be prejudicially favorable as unfavorable. There are many ways to make a sheep of yourself, but the surest way of all is to take either side of any highly polarized debate uncritically.)"
Media and Government are the same thing FB.
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