Article About Rape Trials
- From Sweden
posted by Fidelbogen at 8:10 PM
Wednesday, September 23, 2009
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"When discussing the incident later, the girl admitted that she didn’t consider the incident to be a case of rape at the time."
Classic case of after-the fact regret "rape". She was probably coached by a female friend or wimmins studies professor to claim she was raped.
The comments below the article are extremely interesting.
Looks like most of the people there don't think "He RAEPED ME!1!11!!" counts as evidence "beyond a reasonable doubt" that a crime occurred.
Are we seeing the return of common sense at last?
anon,
More and more we are starting to see this. The problem as it stands now, is that the police are still more than willing to arrest and detain someone (Usually a man), based off of nothing more than someones (Usuall a woman) word that a rape took place.
Regardless of the accusation, there DEFINATELY needs to be an investigation first, then an arrest. Along with that, needs to be MANDATORY anonymity for all parties involved. The press should only get information on it after a conviction is obtained.
The Hofstra case so recently in the news is a prime example. They arrested 4 young men before any investigation took place, and when they started investigating a 5th young man had proof that it was not only consensual, but that she instigated the whole thing.
The Duke case is another good example of conviction before investigation.
The Swedish court got this right. There MUST be more to arresting or convicting someone, than just one person's say so. Otherwise, we destroy the entire fabric of our judicial system (not that it isn't crap already).
F, thanks for running this. It's refreshing to see more and more people starting to wake up to the problem of false accusations, and just how badly the 'rape industry' has twisted things.
Check out this. Interesting piece.
All the best,
E. Steven Berkimer
www.faslerapesociety.blgospot.com
wow, one would think that would be a duh kind of thing! Please don't tell me they are handing out rape convictions in this country solely bases off the victim's testimony!
"Please don't tell me they are handing out rape convictions in this country solely based off the victim's testimony!"
They're getting pretty darn close to it, and the feminist activists are working to push things and change things more and more in that direction. . .
Plenty of innocent men have already been convicted of rape based on little more than 'he said-she said' standards of evidence.
This is what the feminists want! Guilt or innocence is not important to them; all they care about is "getting more convictions."
Their logic is "X number of rapes occur. Therefore, we must convict X number of MEN." Call it 'collectivistic' justice. To the feminist mind, "men rape", therefore, "men" are collectively guilty, therefore "men" must suffer. And it doesn't really matter WHICH men get devoured by the machinery - just so long as the male population is collectively punished. Such is the magic of collectivist thinking!
And even the men who don't get convicted will often have their lives destroyed in the judicial process. Which is okay-fine with the feminists: after all "men" rape, therefore, "men" must suffer.
So many people still don't fully comprehend what an EVIL CANCER feminism really is...
On the subject of FEMINIST RAPE CULTURE, see the following, from July 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5jla8t
I detest the term "rape culture". It is nothing less than a sexist slur used to denigrate masculine societies,or male values.
If you doubt my words, look for a single reference to women eating penis-shaped cakes at their bachelorette parties or hiring male strippers as "objectification of men" or "rape culture".It will be invariably described as a "lighthearted and goofy" event.
But as soon as a story about men enjoying a night out at the strip club pops up-BAM!- a reference to "rape culture" pops up right alongside it.
Well boys and girls, it looks like no charges will be filed in the Hofstra case. She's getting a slap on the wrist.
Here is the story from newsday:
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/no-criminal-charges-for-student-s-false-rape-accusations-1.1475704
and here is the Plea agreement:
http://longisland.newsday.com/data/pdfs/Hofstra%20Student%20agreement.pdf
E. Steven Berkimer
www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com
I hardly ever get to read what happens in Sweden so this is neat.
It is frequently asserted that rape is the ultimate crime; the greatest shock to the system a mind and body can suffer.. This is, of course, a view part and parcel to a long tradition of anxiety and neuroses about sex.
That our society makes such a radical distinction between sexually related and non-sexually related offenses; between what a friend of mine calls pee pee crimes and non-pee pee crimes, is in itself peculiar. There is no necessary nor rational reason to make such a radical distinction nor ascribe any greater significance to one or the other..
This is not to diminish sexual offenses but rather to put them in perspective and understand that our fervid psychosexual reactions - public manias, hysterics, inquisitional and expurgatory attempts to rid society of all "acts against nature" - are, nevertheless, rooted in an irrational past.
I strongly recommend reading Michel Foucault's THE HISTORY OF SEXUALITY Volume I: An Introduction, for further study.
I have heard it said by feminists, more than once, that rape is a "uniquely horrible" crime. Yes, their phrase.
But "unique" in what way? Inasmuch as it is rape, and not something else?
Do they mean to say "supremely" horrible?
Any woman reading this now can do a quick thought experiment. If you were cornered in a dark alley by a hulking criminal, and he said "I will either rape you, OR pound your face into an unrecognizable pulp. You choose!" . . would rape then STILL be uniquely or supremely horrible?
The stereotypical view of rape is maintained by the media. For movies in particular, the simple act of rape is not sensational enough. It must be embellished with a good beating for effect.
Hey Fidelbogen,
While we're on the subject of rape, how about a shout out for Roman Polanski? :)
IMHO
I think most people realize, certainly Europeans do, that the case against Roman Polanski is less about justice now than the reach of American Power.
The second best reason Polanski is being so relentlessly pursued is, quite obviously, cultural.. If thirty years ago, some European starlet had plied a thirteen year old boy with champagne and qaaludes and had sex with him, the American justice system would have dropped the case as soon as she left the country, presuming a case was ever filed. And to this day, no one in the United States, liberal or conservative, man or woman, would harbor any ill will toward her or utter an once of vituperative sentiment against her.
Hi fidel, not wanting to interrupt you current posts, that's why I comment here.
The Assange case quickly moves into our territory. Just found this interesting article:
The woman who hunts Assange
Original article in German here:
Die Frau, die Assange jagt
"Die Zeit" is a very renowned, time-honored weekly newspaper in Germany. If they report something like this, it can be trusted to be true.
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