Monday, October 12, 2009

A Dubious Rape Case in Oregon

I got an interesting e-mail yesterday. It concerns a rape case that is soon to be tried in beautiful eastern Oregon. (No, I am not being sarcastic; eastern Oregon really is beautiful!)

From the circumstances narrated in the e-mail, and in its accompanying web links, this looks like another slam-dunk episode of false accusation. Those cases keep rolling in and piling up and up with nauseating regularity . . . don't they?

A growing light of incipient awareness dawns upon me. Somewhere in my dim, feeble, inchoate excuse for an intellect, something almost like a suspicion is bestirring and forming itself.

What do you think? Is false accusation of rape a "myth"? Or is it a real thing that really happens to real people in the real world? And is it just possibly a thing that happens fairly often . . . even too often? And just how often is too often? The feminist Susan Brownmiller thinks it happens in one case out of fifty. Is one case out of fifty "too" often? No? And supposing you, or somebody you cared about, were that one in fifty? Would THAT make it "too" often?

Or do you wonder if Two-Percent Sue fibbed to us, or didn't know what the hell she was talking about? Do you dimly suspect that the frequency of false rape accusation is a mite HIGHER than 2%? Do you suspect that certain feminist innovations in the legal system have encouraged reporting of rape in a way that makes false reporting much easier to get away with, and therefore much more likely to happen?

And in those quiet moments late at night when the world is still, has the thought occurred to you that NO estimated percentage of false rape reporting— not even zero percent—would ever justify a double standard of protection, weighted against men, in the criminal justice system? Have you given this any thought?

And has it somehow crossed your mind, that the present state of the legal system with regard to rape prosecution has made the world a much more dangerous and poisonous place in which to be male? Have you pondered the ramifications of all this with regard to how men and women will get along with each other in the future, and how it might warp the state of their relationships in general?

Has it occurred to you that men will learn to regard women—not only strange women in bars, but ALL women—with a grain or four of suspicion? And does it sound like a policy of rational self-preservation, that men should adopt such a state of mind? And do you feel that as a result of all this, the thing called "misogyny" which feminists are forever screaming about, will gradually fade away? OR: do you feel that it will grow and grow? And do you suspect that because of a possibly worsening male attitude toward women, women will just possibly reciprocate, and start hating men more and more? And after that, do you feel that men will turn around and up the ante once again? And do you feel virtually certain, that the feminists will blame men for all these things, just as they always do?

And is it possible that feminism has sparkling clean hands in all of this?
Do you feel that feminism is innocent like unto a spring lamb? Pure like unto a lily-of-the-valley? Untainted like unto the driven snow?

Oh, don't mind me! Don't listen to a word I say. I'm just a scumbag MRA who secretly admires that George Sodini guy, right? RIGHT? Go on, say it. You know you want to! Whatever you need to tell yourself; whatever helps you to duck the issue!

Anyhow . . . here is the main part of yesterday's e-mail. Caveat lector. Think for thine own selves, my fellow workers in the vineyard: weed it and reap!

I’m afraid you may be unaware of a great injustice currently happening in Deschutes County. Local prosecutor Jody Vaughan is currently pursuing false rape charges against a local man. Her tactics are less than ethical and has built “evidence” she knows to be based on lies.The evidence against the alleged “victim”, proving SHE is a repeat liar and crier of wolf is incredible and hard to overlook; unfortunately that is exactly what the Deschutes County District Attorney’s office is doing.

As a woman, a mother and a victim of rape and sexual assault, it is extremely important to me for a woman to feel safe to report sexual abuse of any kind. I know firsthand the personal power that is regained when looking an offender in the eye and sending them to prison. Regrettably I have also learned that it is far too common for women to hide behind the claim of rape in order to avoid taking personal responsibility for their own actions. The classic he said she said is almost always swayed to the woman’s side, requiring little proof on her end of the alleged events; leaving the accused to fight for their life with little help due to the Rape Shield Law. My concern is that Kevin is not going to receive a fair trial due to the protections this “victim” has on behalf of the DA’s office. This isn’t the first time she has cried rape falsely and without your help it certainly will not be her last. Please, take the time to follow the link and read the story of Kevin Driscoll (http://tinyurl.com/yhp44sp) and Videos posted at http://bendobserver.com The time is now for something to be done, before another innocent life is ruined. Kevin’s trial begins November 3rd, 2009. Please feel free to contact me for further information regarding this horrifying case and these ridiculous charges.

33 Comments:

Anonymous julie said...

Very sad indeed. I hope things work out OK for him.

But about this 2% thingy.

No-one is questioning that police statistics show 65% (probably gone up in the last year and it varies in countries) false rape claims.

The 2% is what rape feminists believe go right through the system where the man ends up in prison and then the female is found to be lying. It may even come from America's group that uses DNA to free falsely accused rape prisoners.

Feminists think the system is working for men when the police are not prosecuting the man. They think somewhere along the way the system picks up the false rape charge/case.

What they are not understanding is that men are having their lives destroyed and being killed when women cry wolf (false rape) deliberately for money or to harm the man. And all the while feminists are demanding men to be chivalrous on behalf of women who cry wolf deliberately.

This is a good video (link below) with one nasty leading feminist admitting all I am saying.

http://tinyurl.com/5wgvxn

7:32 AM  
Blogger Angela said...

Thank you for posting my letter and for spreading the word of Kevin's story. I have heard of girls claiming false rape in the past, but never a woman to actually come forward and file charges. The statistics of how often this happens is stomach turning. It is an unspeakable crime this woman Melissa has commited. I hope the best for Kevin, but even more I hope that this woman is finally held accountable for her cowardess actions and punished as harshly as Kevin has been the last 9 months he has spent on house arrest awaiting trial. Thank you again for taking the time to post this on your blog.

12:50 PM  
Blogger The Archivist said...

Julie,

First, it's more insidious than that. The 2% canard, has been traced back to Catherine McKinnon, who was quoting one female police officer's opinion. The "Rape Industry", has been riding it ever since. They have politicized the "Women don't lie about rape", line. As if having an Y chromosome automatically makes you incapable of lying about rape, but if you recant, you are then lying about rape. It's a double standard that says heads I win, tails I win.

The second problem, is that when they are consistantly quoting the FBI stats, they look at those that are immediately quantified as false for the 2% (those that are immediatley apparent as false). What they conveniently leave out, is that the category "unfounded", refers to those cases, in the course of the investigation, lack evidence, are recanted, etc., that also will contain a percentage that are false (these aren't included in the totals).

I think it is likely that the number of false accusations is much higher than most would like to admit.

Kanin, McDowell, Times of India, Daphne II..... all studies put the percentages much higher (From 9% up to 60%). We will likely never know the exact percentage (just like there is no way we will ever know how many rapes go unreported (if they aren't reported, how do you know how many there are? You don't know what you don't know.)), but it is, without doubt, much higher than the 2% regularly trotted out as fact.

If you want a few interesting reads, please feel free to stop by my site, www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com and check out the "False Rape Claims Primer" section on our sideboard.

All the Best,

E. Steven Berkimer
www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com

12:53 PM  
Blogger The Archivist said...

Angela,

I wish this was a rarity. Please, feel free to contact us at frs@ymail.com if you would like, as we would have no problem running with this story.

All the Best,

E. Steven Berkimer
www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com

1:14 PM  
Anonymous julie said...

Hi 'The Archivist',

The 2% canard, has been traced back to Catherine McKinnon, who was quoting one female police officer's opinion.

Why thank-you. ;)
Even if I have been told this before, it is nice to hear it. I have to admit that you are the expert when it comes to false rape claims and what is going on concerning rape.

We will likely never know the exact percentage (just like there is no way we will ever know how many rapes go unreported (if they aren't reported, how do you know how many there are? You don't know what you don't know.)), but it is, without doubt, much higher than the 2% regularly trotted out as fact.

I agree it is much higher than 2%. NZ police have been reporting it between 65-80% over the years.

BTW, I think the reason they are able to measure unreported rape is because they keep log books on the phone calls they receive so they can say how many phoned up, to get funding ... and they ask the clients if they have laid charges. You don't know how many are true but they do this sort of thing.

They also get $10,000 per rape in NZ by word and without naming a rapist. It is just like the Muslim women in France having their vaginas fixed after sexing around to look like they are virgins. All paid for by the tax payer if they cry rape and no need to name a guy.

6:08 PM  
Blogger The Archivist said...

Julie,

An expert on rape I hope to never be. What is really funny, is that I really didn't get involved until January of this year. I happened to follow the link to the FRS (I think from this site), and at the time, didn't realize just how often false accusations occurred. I have never been falsely accused, or personally known anyone who has. But this subject touched a nerve, so I started leaving comments on the FRS site (I used to post under the handle wolfboy69), and away we went.

As an aside check out this, story.

It appears that a couple of different universities here in the states have been caught cooking the books, in regards to the number of sexual assaults/rapes that have been reported.

I have no problem accepting, as you state, 65-80% is the amount in certain areas.

From the linked article:

Davis reported 48 forcible sexual offenses in 2005, 68 in 2006 and 69 in 2007. The actual totals, according to the two reviews, were 21, 23 and 33.

So doing the numbers, she reported 2.7 times as many as actually occurred (21+23+33=67 vs. 48+68+69=185). So instead of the 1-in-4 (25%), it should be 1-in-11 (9%). In actual numbers, that is HUGE.

The FBI crime figures show that rape has been decreasing for several years. And yet, the politicization of the topic, and the fact that funding is tied in to the number reported, makes it ripe for abuse.

Because we all know that women lie just as much as men. Unless the subject is rape. Then, for some reason, the "rape industry" wants us to believe that a Y chromosome acts like a magic elixer, and prevents lying. Follow the money. That's what it boils down to.

All the Best,

E. Steven Berkimer
www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com

8:23 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Angela:

"Thank you for posting my letter and for spreading the word of Kevin's story."

No, thank YOU for stopping by and posting a comment at CF! :)

In the next couple of days I will post more about this case, and give information to readers who might wish to become active in this theatre of action! (Including that great list of contact addresses to DA, TV station, newspaper, etc. . .!)

And I will be in touch via e-mail as thoughts occur to me.

8:44 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@ESBerk:

Hey. . . I had no idea that you and Wolfboy were the same person. I was wondering where he had disappeared to, but clearly. . . he didn't!

Something else that intrigues me: I had NO idea that Catherine MacKinnon was the original source of the 2% canard! Where do you learn this from? I had always heard that Two-Percent Sue herself had dug it up from some completely meaningless hearsay source within the NYC police department. . .

Finally, "follow the money" is a big part of this, no doubt. But I think it is more. The radical feminist ideologues who first set this stuff in motion were motivated by, well . . ideology.

And THOSE people are still around.

And in some cases, it really amounts to nothing more mysterious than CYA stonewalling by individuals who have invested their personal and professional identities in a certain view of the world, and don't want admit they were wrong for all those years.

9:03 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@JulesFromZealand:

Hey, that is really something, to hear you repeating those high numbers. I know that I have heard some pretty wild figures about the percentage of false accusations, but the funny thing is, that I tend to reckon these things conservatively.

Being a radical MRA and whatnot, you'd think I would be pushing for the higher figures. But no. . .

I am willing to guesstimate that false rape claims compose something like 20% of the total. NOT because I doubt that it might be more, but because I would rather err on the side of too low, than too high.

I don't want to be as bad as the feminists, in trying to paint the WORST possible picture.

I don't think I need to make it worse than it actually is. And if it is actually only 20%, that is still pretty Effin' Baaad, in my booklet!

And if it turns out to be more than that, well, so much the badder!

But I don't want to be greeedy! ;)

9:41 PM  
Anonymous julie said...

@F

I am willing to guesstimate that false rape claims compose something like 20% of the total. NOT because I doubt that it might be more, but because I would rather err on the side of too low, than too high.

I am sure we can all live with you doing this. :D

Anyways, the video link I gave states 65% which the leading feminists said she was aware of before explaining how they look at at it.

And then one needs to consider doctors and taxi drivers. In NZ 2005, the whole taxi driving industry asked for cameras in all their cars.

But I am all good whichever way you go. It is hard for men and women to fathom when they have only ever heard the feminist side and 60-80% or any number in between would be, at first, too much of a shock they could easily disbelieve.

But I will leave your readers with an interesting page to look over.

http://tinyurl.com/yk25ysf

1:35 AM  
Anonymous julie said...

I really didn't get involved until January of this year.

Wow! I wouldn't have thought that by your writing and site.

Good on you (lots) for bravely speaking out the way you do. It is wonderful to have you online.

So doing the numbers, she reported 2.7 times as many as actually occurred (21+23+33=67 vs. 48+68+69=185). So instead of the 1-in-4 (25%), it should be 1-in-11 (9%). In actual numbers, that is HUGE.

Incredible! I wonder what gave her the confidence to do this in the first place? Hmmm.

The FBI crime figures show that rape has been decreasing for several years. And yet, the politicization of the topic, and the fact that funding is tied in to the number reported, makes it ripe for abuse.

This has been happening in NZ and Australia also. That's why they keep extending the meaning of rape and have included sexual assault.
Also they are forever making it a big deal through advertising it as a problem in the hope more and more women will think they have been raped when in fact they are just feeling miserable from their decision. But instead of empowering females to take responsibility, they keep treating them like babies so they can make money. As you said, "follow the money".

And also again, in NZ they have built the rape crisis into a multi million dollar industry and are making a commission for it. In other words, they will have a seat in parliament just for rape and then in the UN if they haven't already. There is no intention of solving the problem. It is worth too much money.

You add their cries and lobby for men to be sentenced for the same crime as murderers and you think, "What a sick, sick, sick group of women and men".

Keep up the wonderful work.

1:51 AM  
Anonymous julie said...

Just to clarify my words; 6:08 PM

They also get $10,000 per rape in NZ by word and without naming a rapist.

I am talking about women getting $10,000 per rape .. not.. the rape centres. I am not sure how much they get.

4:03 AM  
Blogger The Archivist said...

@F,

Sorry, you were right, it was susan brownmiller.

I am willing to guesstimate that false rape claims compose something like 20% of the total. NOT because I doubt that it might be more, but because I would rather err on the side of too low, than too high.

I don't want to be as bad as the feminists, in trying to paint the WORST possible picture
.


That is the one thing that Pierce and I agree on, we will likely never know what the exact numbers are. But they certainly aren't 2%. We KNOW that.

Incredible! I wonder what gave her the confidence to do this in the first place? Hmmm.

If you read the story, she says that she extrapolated the numbers from national stats. Not from the actual numbers on her campus. I don't think it takes a genius to figure out why you would over-report. No one really checks the numbers, and the amount of funding is tied in to the numbers. The greater the numbers, the greater the funding.

I am talking about women getting $10,000 per rape.

The same thing in England. They get 11,000 Pounds. With no proof necessary. Same thing happens with a lot of rape centers here in the U.S. as well. With no burden of proof, or necessity to repay if it is a false allegation. How is that NOT a recipe for false accusations? (rhetorical)

9:35 AM  
Blogger The Archivist said...

@F,

I hope when you get all of that information (Emails, phone numbers etc.,) that I run the story on our site and link over to yours for the contact info.

9:37 AM  
Blogger Angela said...

I do not understand paying a woman who has been raped $10,000. For this type of case in Oregon, victims who report within 72hrs of their attack are eligible to recieve $400+/week, housing assistance, etc. etc. beyond therapy for them and their families. I'm sure this money is intended (or hope rather) for women/victims who need help to get out of a bad situation... not just throwing cash at these "victims" who are working full time and do not need the assistance. Paying victims to come forward is ridiculous...and we wonder why they make false charges.

10:01 AM  
Blogger The Archivist said...

Paying victims to come forward is ridiculous...and we wonder why they make false charges.

Angela,

Absolutely correct. Funny, when you talk to police where a reward has been offered, people come out of the woodwork trying to get a piece. But if there's no reward, it's like teaching feminists the meaning of equality (sorry, couldn't resist).

When it comes to rape/false rape claims, what doesn't seem to be understood by the "rape industry", is that when you offer monetary incentives, there are 2 options:

1. Get raped.

2. Lie about getting raped.



There is no other way to get these funds. Add to the mix, that there is usually very little punishment/accountability for the false claims, and you have just put a target on every man's back. And still people question why false rape accusations are made.

7:00 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Archivist:

"there are 2 options:

1. Get raped.

2. Lie about getting raped.
"


Yup, that pretty much covers the bases. And I can visualize the rest: Loitering and meandering through backstreets and alleys in provocative attire, attempting to 'get raped'.

I almost wanna say it sounds funny! ;-)

8:11 PM  
Anonymous julie said...

Well, you know ... we are really just survivors when you take human life at is minimum.

When I was a teenager, the courts used to collect money from the guilty and then just give it out to whoever came to them crying, "I am poor".

Junkies were always collecting on a Thursday as a ritual 'let's get stoned day' because Thursday was the day working people got fined.

When social welfare suggested giving extra money for people attending funerals so they could get nice clothes, the line was out the door and around the corner. Everyone all of a sudden was attending funerals.

But the government had to stop this and these people soon had to not only prove they were spending the money how they said but they they got vouchers instead of money for food and clothing.

It is such a shame we as a society don't make feminists fall in line. Just out of shear sympathy for women and the "women are not disposable" attitude, .. we give a pass because society has always done so.

Hey, and this is a fact,.. feminists want to make the world better than they had it but they just don't realise they make it worse.

On the very day women are not needed for child bearing is the very day they become zero, zilch, nothing, obsolete,..... just as man has become.

3:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That society of men regarding women with suspicion. Aren't women trained to do the same thing? To look at strangers and even acquaintances with suspicion because most date rape is committed by someone the victim knows?

If it's such an awful possibility for a man, think about what it's like to be a woman.

5:44 AM  
Blogger The Archivist said...

Anon,

I just can't bring myself to do that. After 40 years of being told:

"All men are rapists, that's all they are"


I just don't care enough about the majority of women. Those in my immediate circle, sure, but outside of that? No.

Look, here's something for you to try. Grab a phone book. Look up how many rape crisis centers there are. Then see how many you can find that offer services to those falsely accused of rape. Compare the numbers. Women have enough services, and options. Men have almost 0.

All this "Rape Hysteria" is manufactured. Let's just take a look at one thing. The number of college students enrolled this fall is 15,900,000. Since roughly 60% are women, that comes out to 9,540,000. Using the oft quoted 1-in-4 college women will be raped is correct, that means that 2,385,000 will be raped this year. There is no way that this kind of crime wave would be so ignored by our society. That is more people than were incarcerated in the U.S. as of june 30, 2008(http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm).

That just isn't beliveable.

You should check this out:

http://www.gibbsmagazine.com/Rape%20statistics.htm

3% of women say that they have been raped, or rape has been attempted. That means 477,000 not over 2 million.

Is 477,000 too high? YES. But let's stop with the fear mongering bullshit that the feminists want us to buy that there's a rapist under every bush. It's complete crap.

I've spent to much time on this to keep it off topic. The subject of the post is false rape accusations, not rape. Thanks for playing, don't let the door hit you on the way out, and thank you for the minimization of the things that the falsely accused go through.


@julie,

Just out of shear sympathy for women and the "women are not disposable" attitude


I used to have that attitude, until I started my education into how things really stand in this country. And suffice it to say, I won't help a women in distress. Unless they are immediate family. Feminism wanted equality, and they are now getting it. They can fend for themselves, and suffer the consequences of their actions. And if they aren't happy with that, they can go F**k themselves.

All the best,

E. Steven Berkimer
www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com

4:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Archivist said, "I would rather err on the side of too low [for the false allegation rate], than too high"

Why?

What happened to innocent until prove guilty?

4:42 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@ESBerk: Just for the record, I haven't reached that point YET. That is, i WOULD help a woman in distress - unless I knew for a FACT that she was a radical feminist.

But wait. . . I had another idea. Maybe I would rescue the radfem too! And then, I would hand her a business card printed with "An MRA Just Saved Your Radical Feminist Ass", followed by the web address of this blog, maybe.

She would spend the rest of her life struggling with the cognitive dissonance.

Well, maybe not. Maybe that's expecting too much of such people.

4:43 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Anon4:42:

Archivist didn't say that, I did.

Anyhow: The concept of 'innocent until proven guilty' has no bearing on statistical guesstimations about the percentage of false rape claims.

It bears only upon the guilt or innocence of the accused in a trial.

5:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fidel "It bears only upon the guilt or innocence of the accused in a trial."

Then why do you want to err on the low side?

After all, it makes no difference. You've just said so.

Think of 'collective guilt'. Imagine if the stats said that the False Allegation Rate was 0%.

This condemns all defendants.

Caution should mean assuming, as much as possible, that men are innocent until proved guilty.

Therefore, defendants should be statistically innocent too.

A 0% false rate estimate clearly says the opposite, and so does a 'cautious' estimate.

8:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Local prosecutor Jody Vaughan "

Bingo. We know why they want to jail an innocent man. The prosecutor is a woman. Women have no morals or conscience whatsoever.

9:02 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

"Women have no morals or conscience whatsoever."

I decline to agree, since I happen to know that isn't true. Or not in all cases. . .

And if some feminist wants to get in here and berate you for saying such a thing. . . then she is welcome to do so. It is HER job. . . NOT MINE! ;)

Anyway, y'know, if women really are what you say they are, then it might be wise to not let them know that you're onto them. .! ;-)

9:47 PM  
Blogger Angela said...

Oh come on Anonymous... There are still good women out there. There are women willing to take responsibility for their actions, stand up for what is right, teach her children right and wrong... unfortunatley women like Melissa and Jody Vaughn, over shaddow us good ones and do a horrible disservice to the rest of us.

11:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I decline to agree, since I happen to know that isn't true. Or not in all cases. . ."

Then why is this injustice happening, with 'Jody' the prosecutor?

This is true of enough women, that the ones who are not have to take on the burden of proving otherwise. A man is better off assuming the worst of women, until the woman proves herself to be an exception.

For all the 'misogyny' that feminists claim exists, they are sure doing a lot to generate new misogyny among men who otherwise had no ill will towards women.

Women have made their bed. Now they must lay in it.

Count me among the men who will no longer help a woman in distress. Until last year, I would have. But no longer.

11:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Angela,

True, but when there are enough bad apples, the whole basket gets thrown away.

You are seeing more and more men declare that they will no longer help a woman in distress, after reading about one too many stories like this. What does this do for the safety of women?

The actions of other women are going to affect you too, since they have tainted the whole gender.

11:11 PM  
Anonymous John Dias said...

If you need concrete, credible and objective evidence pointing to the high rate of false allegations of rape, read on. There is evidence available that indicates that in 8 Western industrialized countries, the rate of false allegations of rape ranges from between 85-98% of alleged offenders.

All men's rights advocates should use the data from the following study, which tracks conviction rates for rape (and other crimes) in 8 countries or jurisdictions:

"Cross-National Studies in Crime and Justice" (Sept. 2004)
Authors: David Farrington, Patrick Langan, Michael Tonry
Bureau of Justice Statistics (United States Federal Department of Justice)
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cnscj.pdf

Jurisdictions surveyed were:

1. England (and Wales)
2. Scotland
3. United States
4. Australia
5. Canada
6. Netherlands
7. Sweden
8. Switzerland

They chose the above countries because of the extensive amount of reliable crime data available in such countries at either the federal or provincial level.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

CONVICTION RATES FOR RAPE:

England/Wales:
Conviction rate: <3%
Source: p. 30, figure 4e

Scotland:
Conviction rate: 2%
Source: p. 226, figure 3e

USA:
Conviction rate: 15%
Source: p. 73, figure 5e

Australia:
Conviction rate: 7%
Source: p. 111, figure 5e

Canada:
Conviction rate: 13%
Source: p. 157, figure 3e

Netherlands:
Conviction rate: 5%
Source: p. 190, figure 3e

Sweden:
Conviction rate: <2%
Source: p. 259, appendix table 3

Switzerland:
Conviction rate: 3%
Source: p. 277, figure 4e

3:41 PM  
Blogger The Archivist said...

John,

Sorry, but just because those are the conviction rates, doesn't mean that the rest are false. I'm sure that there are a portion that ARE rapes, but due to lack of evidence, can't be prosecuted. I will agree that a good portion are likely false, but just blanket saying 85-98% are, based on just the conviction rate, is just as misleading as the 1-in-4, 2%, etc.

All the best,

E. Steven Berkimer
www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com

8:34 PM  
Anonymous John Dias said...

From a criminal justice standpoint, I think that it's okay to say that so long as you define guilt as stemming from a conviction. People make the leap that when there is a conviction society can infer guilt; why not the other way around? Why can't we infer innocence in the absence of a conviction?

Besides, this is evidence-based. The "1-in-4 women are raped in their lifetime" claim is purely conjecture.

11:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Angela said...
Oh come on Anonymous... There are still good women out there. There are women willing to take responsibility for their actions, stand up for what is right, teach her children right and wrong... unfortunatley women like Melissa and Jody Vaughn, over shaddow us good ones and do a horrible disservice to the rest of us.

11:03 PM

You ,and other concerned women should help do something about the bad apples.

1:59 AM  

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