Feministing Posts a Fluff Piece
About the IGAF Meeting
Chloe, at at the upper-middle-class yupster website Feministing.com, has posted the following short item about the Interessengemeinschaft Antifeminismus (IGAF) meeting which took place in Switzerland two days ago:
http://tinyurl.com/26h5rpj
The article is, I assure you, a complete waste of reading time for its own sake. But for the sake of monitoring the developing political weather patterns, it is informative. What we are witnessing is their very first spontaneous "twitch" -- before they've had time to digest, or look into, or process the implications of , the thing they are twitching about. It is their "think fast" moment. And I'm wondering if they learned about the AGAF conference here--at this blog--first?
The bulk of the article consists of a quote from Ulf Andersson, followed by one or two paragraphs of poison chipmunk-chatter from authoress Chloe, who has difficulty comprehending what is meant by the phrase 'return things to normal'.
All right Chloe, I will explain. Returning things to normal means holding feminism accountable for its crimes and correcting the present system of sociopolitical abuses against men. Any questions?
Yet to be honest, I am pessimistic as hell. I seriously wonder if things will EVER return to "normal" -- that is, short of a violent social cataclysm of one kind or another? For the present, I can only see things rolling further and further down hill, growing steadily more and more abnormal until we reach a breaking point where "something's got to give". And. . . I fear it will be ugly. Frankly, I see a WAR ahead. . .
Well no, not "ahead" at all. In fact, the war is already here and has been ongoing for a good long while. But I fear it can only escalate. War has been declared on men, by feminism, and men all over the world are becoming aware of this. So they are proselytizing, organizing, mobilizing, networking, discussing things, making plans and ultimately, lining up feminism in the sociopolitical crosshairs! There will be more and more of these conferences, springing up everywhere, and I'm afraid there will never be enough fascist thugs to shut down all of them.
You cannot stop men from convening as men, and talking about things as men, and existing politically as men, and banding together in the defense of their common interests as men. The wheels are turning, and men are here for the duration. They have been around for a good long while and I'm pretty sure they won't be leaving town any time soon.
http://tinyurl.com/26h5rpj
The article is, I assure you, a complete waste of reading time for its own sake. But for the sake of monitoring the developing political weather patterns, it is informative. What we are witnessing is their very first spontaneous "twitch" -- before they've had time to digest, or look into, or process the implications of , the thing they are twitching about. It is their "think fast" moment. And I'm wondering if they learned about the AGAF conference here--at this blog--first?
The bulk of the article consists of a quote from Ulf Andersson, followed by one or two paragraphs of poison chipmunk-chatter from authoress Chloe, who has difficulty comprehending what is meant by the phrase 'return things to normal'.
All right Chloe, I will explain. Returning things to normal means holding feminism accountable for its crimes and correcting the present system of sociopolitical abuses against men. Any questions?
Yet to be honest, I am pessimistic as hell. I seriously wonder if things will EVER return to "normal" -- that is, short of a violent social cataclysm of one kind or another? For the present, I can only see things rolling further and further down hill, growing steadily more and more abnormal until we reach a breaking point where "something's got to give". And. . . I fear it will be ugly. Frankly, I see a WAR ahead. . .
Well no, not "ahead" at all. In fact, the war is already here and has been ongoing for a good long while. But I fear it can only escalate. War has been declared on men, by feminism, and men all over the world are becoming aware of this. So they are proselytizing, organizing, mobilizing, networking, discussing things, making plans and ultimately, lining up feminism in the sociopolitical crosshairs! There will be more and more of these conferences, springing up everywhere, and I'm afraid there will never be enough fascist thugs to shut down all of them.
You cannot stop men from convening as men, and talking about things as men, and existing politically as men, and banding together in the defense of their common interests as men. The wheels are turning, and men are here for the duration. They have been around for a good long while and I'm pretty sure they won't be leaving town any time soon.
posted by Fidelbogen at 2:04 PM
17 Comments:
Men saw off the Nazis.
Feminists are pussycats. We're here for the long haul.
"Yet to be honest, I am pessimistic as hell. I seriously wonder if things will EVER return to "normal" -- that is, short of a violent social cataclysm of one kind or another? For the present, I can only see things rolling further and further down hill, growing steadily more and more abnormal until we reach a breaking point where "something's got to give". And. . . I fear it will be ugly."
It will be ugly. Real confrontation is coming, and for the first time.
The question is who it will be ugly for. Probably not for you or I, Fidelbogen. As for the opposition, I am quite happy to let certain sorts of people dig their own graves, and then come along a little while later and chuck the earth in on top of them.
Also: dialectics can shift rather fast.
The hipster feminist sector has caught wind that the 'bad cop' has gotten 'worse'.
Radicals will keep saying what they've always said, because there is nowhere else to go beyond the absolute extreme.
But hipsters / earnest feminists will all of a sudden want to negotiate with the 'good cops'. It's concession time!
You know, men aren't really all that bad, it's just those nasty horrible anti-feminists in Switzerland. That kind of talk ... so come on men, help us out against the nasty anti-feminists!
I don't see it happening, sister. There's a consciousness now. These things tend to grow. When asked for help, men are going to say "fuck you."
For the first time.
We are making history.
If I may make a confusing analogy; I see Men as Iron and Women as Water. For a while now, the water (Women) has been boiling, and at first the Iron (Men) didn't react, it kept it's cool though it was confused about all the hostility (heat).
Well, the Iron has been heating up for a long time now, it is probably red hot in some areas and achieving a consistency that is of terrifying heat. Iron takes a long time to heat up, but it takes just as long to cool down.
The water will cool, possibly, but the Iron will remain hot.
Sorry, Fidelbogen, I know you are all about the "Ice between the ears" indifference, I just can't think of a fitting analogy with that.
HA!
I just signed up with feministing.
I am guessing that all of my posts will be censored!
"Back to normal! You know, back to women not having rights. Back to true equality! Where a woman knew her separate, different, socially proscribed and legally enforced but totally equal place."
There it is again!
They keep on trying to convince people that women did not have any rights before feminism...
That is nonsense.
Mr. Anderson, if it is possible to divulge the information; was Mr. Rino della Vecchia of Uomini3000 in attendance at the anti-f meeting in Switzerland?
@ Anonymous 11:42 AM
I just know about those who held
speeches, except for the founders,
of course. I haven´t heard about
Mr. Rino della Vecchia
before the blog comment referred to.
@Ulf:
Rino della Vecchia is the founder of a men's group in Italy called Uomini3000. Now, I'm guessing that you don't understand Italian any better than I do, but click on the link in the right sidebar if you want to see their website. ( Where it says "Uomini300(in Italiano").)
Also, U3000 has a party platform, which one of my blog readers translated into English a couple of years ago. You can download a PDF copy of this from the following address:
CLICK HERE
@ Fidelbogen
My knowledge is very limited
in many areas.
It was a new name to me.
Many people choose to comment
as "Anonymous":
How can I be sure that I´m not revealing
things to a Feminist?
P.S. You´ve got mail.
@Ulf:
Yes, I saw that. Now you've got mail! ;)
@Anon: 11:42:
Apparently the Spanish and Italian men's groups (which includes U3000) sent a collective representative to the meeting. But it doesn't look like Rino della Vecchia was there.
about those anonymouses:
Call me paranoid - but yes, I am guessing that there are far more feminist readers in these circles than anti-feminist readers...
I have some very weak evidence to back that up - I am investigating that theory now.
Anyway - Glad to see that you had the brains to not post publicly about your meeting stuff.
@Scarecrow:
The identity of our present Anonymous is quite discernable to me. And no, it is not a feminist. ;)
Oh, btw: here is the feministing article (discussed in this post) reposted on an Italian feminist blog, in Italian translation:
http://blog.libero.it/rABArAMA/9465449.html
Ha! You'd think in Italy they would have a better pipeline to local(ish) events than getting it second-hand from feministing.com . . . but then after all, we're talking about bimbos here!
Apologies.
I did not mean THE anonymouses in this post specifically.
I mean, in general - here as in here in these circles.
And - usually, they do not post, they just read... I do have some internet tracking skills...
@ScareCrow:
This blog has a ton of silent readers, but only a handful of active commenters. And I am quite aware than a goodly portion of those readers are feminists.
I have no doubt that there are many feminists reading this blog and other men blogs.
I don't believe this can cause any harm: the ladies want to know what lies ahead.
And as you and I know very well, things are not shaping up too nicely for them: their future looks darker every day.
I wonder what it will look like when the backlash goes into full throttle mode...
"I have no doubt that there are many feminists reading this blog and other men blogs.
I don't believe this can cause any harm: the ladies want to know what lies ahead.
And as you and I know very well, things are not shaping up too nicely for them: their future looks darker every day.
I wonder what it will look like when the backlash goes into full throttle mode..."
Except,they won't get a step-by-step plan of what we're going to do.The most accuracy they can get is that of a tea leaf reading.Reading our blogs does them no good. They don't see us as a serious enemy. They laugh at us. Which I think is wonderful.They won't be laughing long.
And let's cut the shit, this is not a backlash against feminism, this is men asserting that they also have rights, and demanding our rights be respected.We may identify feminists as one group that is specifically disregarding our HUMAN rights,but they are certainly not the only people we take issue with.
So what is going into full throttle is the first ever effort at social awareness of men as human beings who have basic rights,including,but not limited to, reproductive rights,the right to bodily integrity, the right to retain our property or assets that we worked for or inherited,and the right to not be subjected to verbal,physical,or emotional harassment or assault by a spouse,in taxpayer-funded institutions or in the media.
If any feminists ARE reading this, all I have to say is, you will step aside and allow us to claim these rights for ourselves legally.
It may not be today,tomorrow,or a week from now, but you will go down in history as a hate group that tried to harm men and stood in the way of human rights and prosperity. People will spit on your leaders and yourselves,as they spit on Neo-Nazis and money-grubbing politicians today,because you are both of these things in one package;fascist pig and opportunist whore. You will have plenty of company too,so don't worry about that. Feminism will be one of many groups to bow to a recognition of men's rights and valuation of men's real experiences.
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