Saturday, December 11, 2010

From the Memory Vaults



And might it really be just that simple?

Shoving an error message in their face?

38 Comments:

Anonymous silentblood and his wife said...

We like it. It's a pretty neat pic... perhaps...

*formulates evil plan*

*enters troll mode*

KARMA!

9:05 PM  
Blogger ScareCrow said...

FEMINIST ERROR
404:
BRAIN NOT FOUND

9:21 AM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

Why? Just why?
http://blogs.feministsf.net/?cat=17
Feminists need to stay away from things my subby hubby and I enjoy! >.<

They can stay away from someof my favorite forms of fiction(romance is my favorite ^_^)! I don't care if it's "feminist" or not! I just care if Frodo can save the day.
It doesn't have to be "gender-blind" or what have you, it just has to be a good story. What's next? Claiming that the Dresden Files is sexist because Harry Dresden is male?

Science fiction and fantasy has similar tropes
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScienceFictionVersusFantasy
(Just for ease of comparison. Warning: TV tropes will consume your time)

I'm going to try and post the pic on that blog. Sorry for the rant.

11:13 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@ScareCrow:

Oh, there IS a feminist brain to be found. But. . . oi! such a brain!

12:36 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

"It doesn't have to be "gender-blind" or what have you, it just has to be a good story."

You realize, of course, that feminists are quite happy to be NON gender-blind when it suits their purposes, politically, to do so?

"What's next? Claiming that the Dresden Files is sexist because Harry Dresden is male?"

Kvetching about "Lawrence of Arabia" because women are virtually nowhere to be seen in that movie. (Yes, the colonization of male space extends into every possible crevice. No job too small!)

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

"You realize, of course, that feminists are quite happy to be NON gender-blind when it suits their purposes, politically, to do so?"
YES! They are lying hypocrites. They claim to see beyond gentleman and lady parts, but they DON'T! They are prone to stereotyping as much as the next person!

ME:"I'm a feminine woman"
FEMINIST:"You are a tool of the patriarchy!"

"Kvetching about "Lawrence of Arabia" because women are virtually nowhere to be seen in that movie. (Yes, the colonization of male space extends into every possible crevice. No job too small!)"
Neat podcast!

Also: I gave a comparison between sci-fi and fantasy, to show that they both have traditions that feminists don't care about.

(TV tropes is a terrible time eater, huh? Once you start reading them, they will eat your time. :-))

1:20 PM  
Anonymous Snark said...

"They are prone to stereotyping as much as the next person!"

I would say a lot more so ...

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

"I would say a lot more so ..."
I disagree. Everyone stereotypes. We're built to make snap judgments based on similarities to what we've already encountered. I see a skinny male, I expect him to be physically weak and will treat him as such until proven otherwise. I see a skinny female I'll do the same. however since in my personal experience women tend to be physically weaker then men, I'll assume she is weaker then the skinny male... again, until proven otherwise.


Computer geeks ranging from IT support staff to programmers tend towards inactivity. Hence if I'm meeting one I'll tend to look for the physically out of shape person. If they're instead built like a body builder I'd be surprised and make note. an exception rather then the rule.


Our brains are averaging engines geared for snap judgments.

2:40 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

"Our brains are averaging engines geared for snap judgments."

True on average.

The degree of override may vary. Also, the degree of accuracy may vary.

Perhaps what Snark meant to say, is that feminists strike out more often as regards override and accuracy.

Ideological bias could have a lot to do with that.

3:47 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

"Ideological bias could have a lot to do with that."
Agreed. That's where my subby hubby come's in,he says a slang feminist phrase automatically assumes this: "Not my Nigel" is shorthand for the common reaction of many women to feminist observations and explanations of sexist activity and sexist motivations i.e. "Not my Nigel! He'd never do anything like that" or more invidiously "well sure, my Nigel says/does that but he doesn't mean any harm by it".
(The feminist response is that truly one has no idea what sexist activities one's Nigel engages in when performing manliness to impress other men (you think all those gropers and harassers tell their wives/mothers/sisters what they do?) and that not meaning any harm because "boys will be boys" is exactly the root of the problem.)

Even though I know hubby is respectful of women and genuinely kind!>.< They want to accuse him of being a sexist pig!

6:47 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

""Not my Nigel" is shorthand for.."

Ahh yes, I am familiar with that phrase, seeing how much time I have spent poring over feminist blogs in order to learn of their folkways! (Studying their primal human nature interests me far more than studying their official stories about themselves, e.g. their ideologies.)

And yes, "not my Nigel" appears to mean exactly what I earlier had concluded it to mean! :)

Apart from that, "not my Nigel" is just a variation on the "All men are potential [whatever]" meme. It is another way of saying the same thing. Any and every man is "Nigel". We are all "Nigel".

The feminists need to learn, that accusations or imputations against unspecified people are worthless.

They need to be TAUGHT this. Harshly!

8:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The feminist response is that truly one has no idea what sexist activities one's Nigel engages in when performing manliness to impress other men"


And of course, this mischaracterizes not only what manliness is,but what men themselves believe it is. Manliness may be defined by actions one performs but it is not something that one performs as a whole, like stagecraft. Manliness is something that one IS, and it is something that you are born with, a set of skills and traits for navigating the world. The manliness isn't in the use of the skills,it's in the possession of the skills,being born with them is what makes one manly, being born without them, one is effeminate.

That is where feminists since Dworkin made a critical error. They assume one can "renounce manhood". You can't "renounce manhood" any more than you can "renounce tallness" or having blue eyes. You women are more flexible in your sexuality but even that has limitations, once you become pregnant, reality hits most of you that femininity also cannot be "renounced".

I would think a massive amount of mental effort would have to be employed to keep missing the facts and keep feminists from feeling silly about pretending to be men.

It is similar to the idea of a mummery dance in which everyone believes that they are the animal they are dressed up as. The only effort needed to show that it isn't the case is to push the one dressed up like a bird off a cliff. Feminists cannot take on or renounce their sex anymore than the man in the stork costume can take on or renounce the power of flight. If it tumbles like a man,if it splatters like a man, it probably isn't a bird.

11:17 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

"I would think a massive amount of mental effort would have to be employed to keep missing the facts and keep feminists from feeling silly about pretending to be men."

Y'know, they can pretend to be men all they wish, but not at my expense!

1:08 AM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

@Anon
Familiar with male lesbians? They sort of break those rules. http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/polepino/Chapter05/Malelesbian.html I have only met one in my entire life, he was one of my first clients.(I'm a clinical psychologist)

@Nigelbogen(I can do it too! ^_^)
"Apart from that, "not my Nigel" is just a variation on the "All men are potential [whatever]" meme. It is another way of saying the same thing. Any and every man is "Nigel". We are all "Nigel"."
I agree. It's like the accusations leveled by intolerant assholes, that claim that gay men are pedophiles or that kinky people are rapists.

10:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Lady Catherine:

Lexis-Nexis was searched from 1980 through 2006 uncovering 902 teachers who were known to have had sex with pupils. Teachers who engaged in homosexuality constituted 63% of perpetrators in Ireland, 62% in New Zealand, 60% in Canada, 54% in Scotland, 48% in Australia, 47% in England, and 35% in the U.S.


The figures are especially significant given that homosexuals at any one time make up only a tiny 3%-5% of the population.


(This means that if it is an equal spread - homosexuals should in theory make up only 3-5% of pedophiles).

"Astounding," said Dr. Paul Cameron of the Family Research Institute, a Colorado Springs think-tank, who conducted the investigation: "Similar results have been reported in U.S. studies from 1978 through 1996."

You said, "I agree. It's like the accusations leveled by intolerant assholes, that claim that gay men are pedophiles..."


Hmmm - I guess that doing proper research makes one an intolerant asshole.

1:04 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

@Anon
Source? I don't doubt that homosexuals could be a pedophile. Nut saying all gay men or lesbians are pedos is just the same as saying all men are violent.

2:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Anon
Lady Catherine was just saying that claiming all gay men are pedophiles is intolerant.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

Sorry for the double post.
@Anon
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

2:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you show me a link or reference or a quote that clearly says that "all gay men are pedophiles"?

I have never heard such a claim ever.

Making crap up is what I would call an even more severe form of intolerance...

It is called, "claiming victim status"

That is what feminists do.

It seems to me that is a mentality that has done some severe harm over the last 50 years.

3:43 PM  
Blogger ScareCrow said...

Off-Topic:

Whatever happened with that Swedish thing - where a bunch of people were going to meet, to oppose feminism?

Did the conference ever take place?

What came of it?

5:09 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Anon 3:43:

I take no side in the present controversy, but. . .

Maybe I can shed a few particles of light here.

Essentially, we are asked to choose between 2 possibilities:

1. That the world contains people who might agree that "all gays are pedophiles".

2. That the world contains no such people as given in item 1.

So, the task now becomes that of sorting out probabilities from possibilities.

I would frame the difficulty in this form:

Which, purely on its face, seems more probable, item one or item two?

5:10 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

@Anon
“[A]pparently people who are practicing pedophiles would be considered protected under this legislation, but not, I understand, veterans, not, I understand, pregnant women, not, I understand, 85-year-old grandmothers would be protected under this law,” she said. “But who would be protected? A pedophile, someone who considers themselves gay, someone who considers themselves transgender, someone who considers themselves a cross-dresser? That is who is protected.”-Rep. Michele Bachman

That's just one example

5:15 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@ScareCrow:

The IGAF meeting in Switzerland was held, as described in earlier posts.

I would assume that the participants networked with each other, and that the international pro-male community in Europe was strengthened as a result.

5:40 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@LadyCatherine:

"(I'm a clinical psychologist)"


(Fidel strokes his pointed goatee, and settles his pince-nez more firmly upon his nose.)

"You say you are a clinical psychologist. Would you like to tell me more about that?

7:28 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

@Fidelbogen
^_^ A clinical psychologist is like a psychiatrist except, I don't prescribe medicine, rather I focus on therapy and working with my clients to improve behavior and help them overcome their disorders. my specialty is cognitive behaviors and I have a PsyD for therapeutic work. Basically what I do is like physical therapy but with the mentally ill. For example if you came to me and you told me you was feeling depressed and I determined you were clinically depresses, I'd have you see me weekly.

7:54 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@LadyC:

The anti-feminist camp seems to have drawn a certain number of people from your general field of work. You are not the only one.

Unfortunately, the feminist camp has a LOT of people in your line. That complicates life for the average male who might be seeking a professional to help him "sort his stuff out." One must be careful when/if/to whom one entrusts the key to one's spiritual guts.

Falling into the hands of a feminist shrink-wrap artist doesn't sound too much better than falling into the hands of uh. . Roy Masters or somebody like that! :(

9:13 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

"Teachers who engaged in homosexuality constituted 63% of perpetrators in Ireland, 62% in New Zealand, 60% in Canada, 54% in Scotland, 48% in Australia, 47% in England, and 35% in the U.S."

Is "homosexuality" used inclusively here, to include lesbians?

And so, would those figures refer at least in part to encounters between female teachers and female students?

Given that teaching is now a largely female profession, that seems a distinct possibility.

Also, as regards the question of (male)pedophilia in general, there is the matter of age limits. A "chickenhawk" who goes after 17-year-olds might never dream of touching 7-year-olds or 12-year-olds. At what point (for purpose of discussion) does "philia" cease to be "pedo"?

1:07 AM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

@Fidelbogen
There's hebephilia(attracted to 11-14 year olds) and ehpebophilia(attracted to 15-19 year olds), I don't think I got the spellings right, but what your average person calls pedophilia might refer to those other philias. I hope that clears that up :-) They're in the DSV-IV and will be in the DSV-V it gets done(*sigh* they're adding non-issues to the DSV-V)

6:37 AM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

Sorry, I meant DSM-IV and DSV-V. I had a looong night :-p

8:43 AM  
Blogger ScareCrow said...

Amazing - one little picture started this big thread!

What I like:

"Can you show me a link or reference or a quote that clearly says that "all gay men are pedophiles"?

I have never heard such a claim ever.

Making crap up is what I would call an even more severe form of intolerance"

I agree with that portion of what he said.

THAT IS WHAT FEMINISTS DO.

I have never seen a woman in chains, enslaved, forced to cook, stopped from going to college, etc...

I have also never met a single "gay-basher", or heard anybody tell me that all gays are pedophiles.

As whomever said that said, "show me a link or something" to PROVE that anybody ever even said this.

That is one big problem with feminism IMO - they just made a bunch of crap up...

While there might have been extremely rare cases where somebody said something - it was not mainstream opinion...

feminists however, use such remote and bizarre cases - and make people believe that they are mainstream...

Indeed - a hate inspiring tactic if I ever saw one...

Convincing that all men think women are stupid, incompetent etc...

Convincing gays that people think they are all pedophiles.

These things clearly inspire hatred - not from the mainstream - but from the people who falsely believe they are being victimized by a popular belief - when in fact, no such belief exists in the first place.

very telling indeed.

9:11 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

". . ehpebophilia(attracted to 15-19 year olds)"

Ah, so if some perfectly normal, decent fella should catch his breath at the sight of an exceptionally hot and mature 19-year-old, that makes him an . . ehpebophiliac. Poor guy.

Heaven forbid that the dewy little Lorelei-Lolita should reciprocate his interest.

Of course, one day later Lambkin turns 20, and then the guy turns into some other kind of philiac, I reckon!

10:16 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

"Amazing - one little picture started this big thread!"

Is it really so amazing? I could have posted a link to an article about sheet-metal fasteners, and the thread still would have launched itself! ;)

"That is one big problem with feminism IMO - they just made a bunch of crap up..."

They COOKED it up like a soufflé -- or whipped it up like a meringue. And when either of the above goes flat. . that's all she wrote, eh?

10:28 AM  
Blogger ScareCrow said...

@Fidelbogen:

What are your stances on sheet-metal fasteners anyway?

That is one thing that I have always wondered about you...

2:21 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@ScareCrow:

Alas, that is such a politically loaded subject that I dare not openly speak my mind about it! :(

3:57 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@LadyC:

You posted a couple of comments, and for some mysterious reason they are not showing up here. :(

Just so you'll know. .

4:01 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

@Fidelbogen
It was a couple of links it's no biggy. I just want to say that, the view that all gays are pedos is thankfully rare. I don't doubt that some people hold very stupid and bigoted views, just look at feminists. I understand the problems of the victim card. I am personally a feminine heterosexual Dominant woman, but my subby hubby is a masculine bisexual, who doesn't play the victim card. I apologize for starting this mess in the first place. The important thing is stopping feminism

5:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Familiar with male lesbians? They sort of break those rules."

No they don't. They weren't born with the set of skills and traits I mentioned,but an analogous one. Lesbians aren't manly,even the ones that dress in flannel shirts and wear combat boots.

Those same women who claim to be "men on the inside" suffer from the lack of visuo-spatial skills and will never have the possibility of breaking the upper I.Q. threshold characteristic of their REAL sex. Their problem, as you should well know, is a gender dysmorphic disorder, a mental disease which keeps them from identifying with their own sex, caused by a wash of male hormones in the womb that altered their brains just enough to cause them to identify as male without restructuring them along the same lines that male brains are formed.

If one were to dissect their brains, I'm sure one would find the same thing found in other women, an abundance of white matter and a conspicuous lack of gray matter,a well-developed amygdala and an atrophied pre-frontal lobe.

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Lady Catherine said...

@Anon
Perhaps we're using different definitions, when I say sex, I mean your physical sex based on your lady or gentleman parts and other traits common in your sex. When I say gender I mean the social construct that defines your role. Example: silentblood(my husband) is a male(his sex), he has the equipment and physicality to show it. But as a submissive bisexual, he is intergendered having feminine(he totally denies this, but at least I *get* him more than previous boyfriends ^_^) and maculine traits.

6:16 PM  

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