What I Wrote on Another Blog
Here is a chance to kill two birds with one stone. Oh, the animal rights people will hate me for saying THAT, eh?
But yes; two birds with one stone. I get to make a quick-and-easy blog post that is zippy and zesty, plus I get to introduce a new blog and send some traffic to it. This new blog constitutes, as I would aver, a strategic locus of interstitiality, so for that reason alone I am quite certain that you will want to look into it!
It is, of course, the blog of Lady Catherine:
Musings of a Pro-Humanist Woman
All right, I left a comment on LC's latest post, as you will find out if you follow the above link. When you read that post it will give you the full context, however, I share the comment below. I think it touches on a couple of important things:
But yes; two birds with one stone. I get to make a quick-and-easy blog post that is zippy and zesty, plus I get to introduce a new blog and send some traffic to it. This new blog constitutes, as I would aver, a strategic locus of interstitiality, so for that reason alone I am quite certain that you will want to look into it!
It is, of course, the blog of Lady Catherine:
Musings of a Pro-Humanist Woman
All right, I left a comment on LC's latest post, as you will find out if you follow the above link. When you read that post it will give you the full context, however, I share the comment below. I think it touches on a couple of important things:
"I actually think social conservatism is terrible and hurtful to others. "I must now contradict my stated policy in the comment, and admit that I do, in fact, have a misogynistic bone in my body -- to be exact, the second phalange in my left pinky! It is dreadfully misogynistic. And how do I know this? Because the lab results came back a few days ago. But as we all know, feminists haven't got any sense of humor -- especially not the dry, English kind of humour which I, as an American, am imitating here. And that is why I am outing this wicked morsel of information to all the world!
It depends on what you are calling 'social conservatism'. So. . I am not sure what to make of this statement.
As for FOTC, her critique of the so-called MRA movement is done in smorgasbord style: she picks what she wants to put on her plate, arranges this artistically, and calls the final composition "the MRM" as if she were describing something objectively real -- which, to some extent it is, but to another extent, it is not. That makes it a half truth, which, in my considered opinion is considerably worse than a full lie.
And no, my own analysis of feminism does NOT commit this fault.
ALSO. . . . FOTC fails to consider that the "MRM" is only one piece of a much, much broader picture. That "picture" is, of course, the non-feminist revolution as a whole.
"The MRAs I really respect like Fidelbogen(excuse me he's a non-feminist :-)) and Paul Elam don't have a misogynist bone in their body."
Thanks for pointing out that I am a non-feminist! ;) Of course, I am also a Male Rights Agitator -- I can't deny that the descriptor fits pretty well what I do, so I might as well wear it, eh?
As for not having a misogynistic bone in my body: I ought to flesh out that characterization a little bit more. While I neither affirm nor dispute this statement, it is critically important to add that I do not care in the least if anybody THINKS that I have a misogynistic bone in my body.
As a non-feminist I am not bound to answer to any such charge, because I am not bound by the social construct within which the charge is framed. I consider "misogyny" and "misogynist" to be feminist terminology, and as such, permanently tainted.
posted by Fidelbogen at 6:32 PM
19 Comments:
My latest headline will be:
Fidelbogen: Not just counter-feminist, but counter-bird as well!
I hate to say this, but eventually, there will have to be a discussion on who exactly is worthy of misogyny.
That is:
Some men have legitimate grievances against women - or rather - what women have become in this day and age.
Others - perhaps less so.
Very few I have met - no grievances at all...
Misogynists are not BORN, they are created.
Fidelbogen,
Thanks for pimping out my blog. :-) And I am apalled by your small misogynist bone! ;-)
Perhaps a large philgynistic(is that even a word? ;-)) bone would make you happy? I know of a couple of friends with erhem... *whisper* natural MALE enhancement. Then you could be Smilin' Fidelbogen or something like that. Or maybe a lolcat and lolspeak will do it. I is sadz now! :-) *insert lolcat*
/totally joking around
@LC:
Way ahead of you here. Little do you know that the "Fidelbogen" construct is actually an advanced form of AI cyberlife, existing as a dynamic, distributed 'cloud' of internet packets which roams at will on the WWW and slips through any firewall or port, and emulates human personalities with ease. . .
/not joking around a bit ;)
@Fidelbogen
Lol wut? I is confuzed. Fidelbogen is teh interwebz? ;-)
@LC:
Yes, you see, it is all about the new electrical technology. It's scientific.
I am putting up a new post. Watch for it. I guarantee you will like it, since I know that psychology is your gig, and boy . . is this one ever about psychology!
=]
and yes, when would a lolcat post with no other substance to it ever hurt? never.
offtopic congrats:
http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/11/5811385-assange-case-has-feminism-gone-too-far
wow, it's msn.com. mainstream. maybe the world has a hope after all...
I must say Fidelbogen. There are some snazzy tools that Blogger has. I have a few extra pages on my blog now, I'm going to set up a polling system and I think I may end up having a humor page. :-)
For whomsoever is following the BAW feuilleton, I have left the following comment on the feminizzle.wordpress.com feminist blog:
"I would say, as I have said elsewhere, that any man is entitled, IN PRINCIPLE, to seek a woman anywhere on earth it shall right well please him to do so.
In principle, I don’t think it is possible to argue with that.
The trouble with people such as this BAW critter, is that they lack rhetorical discipline upon the subject. If they would just discuss it calmly, dispassionately, and without all the invective, then people such as feminists would not have any ammunition to use against them.
One other thing. “Fidel”, who has posted on this thread, is not the same person as myself — even though I am sometimes referred to by that name, for short."
I decided to more or less ban BAW from posting on my blog. Unless he can post something constructive, he might as well prepare to get deleted
Another thing. I think my blog is starting to look pretty snazzy. I have Two newsreels, a recent comments section, a welcome message, contact page, and well, pretty neat stuff all around. I can't get the polling or Q&A working without modding my blog to require a log in/sign in. Oh well. :-)
There is a feminist blog that is actually named 'feminizzle'?
How very gauche.
"There is a feminist blog that is actually named 'feminizzle'?"
Yes. It is run by students at Williams College in Williamstown, MA.
College students, wouldn't ya know it...
@CCL:
That MSNBC article: it's a lean in the right direction, no doubt. And it confirms the watershed importance of the Assange case.
But, the article is too namby-pamby for my liking. The first commenter captured my own thoughts to a 'T':
"Anybody who needs to ask if feminism has gone too far, is living under a rock."
I looked up Williamstown, Massachusetts, on Wikipedia.
Just what I expected. A quaint, picturesque New England town in the midst of beautiful, unspoiled natural scenery -- the Taconic mountains, Mt. Greylock in the background, all that sort of thing.
No doubt their lack of male privilege makes the feminist grrls walk the rough, tough streets of dangerous Williamstown with trepidation, of an evening. What with all of these MRAs and rapists and "bad eggs" running around nowadays, a feminist grrl just can't be too careful, don'cha know?
Yay, more misogynistic* grrls and womyn!
*This is my conclusion of feminists. They hate feminity and are jealous of men and their masculinity.
"Some men have legitimate grievances against women - or rather - what women have become in this day and age."
Well 'Crowe, present trajectories being what they are, "misogyny", or more exactly sour feeling toward women, is going to grow and grow. And so long as the feminist social construct remains in effect, there is not a damn thing to be done about it.
I, for one, don't intend to lift a finger to stop "misogyny". Of course I will offer my advice, in a conversational way, to anybody who will listen, but if they won't listen. . oh well!
As a non-feminist, there is no way I can oppose "misogyny" that would satisfy a feminist -- that is, no way short of becoming a feminist myself and boosting the growth of feminist innovation.
And if I refuse to become a feminist and to follow the feminist recipe against "misogyny", then the feminists will call ME a misogynist.
But, as a non-feminist (and specifically a counter-feminist), I know that it would only spawn MORE MISOGYNY if I were endorse the feminist social construct and follow the feminist recipe.
So, it's a double-bind. A catch-22. A heads they win, tails you lose.
Either do what the feminists say, and so make "misogyny" worse, or tell the feminists to fvck off, and get called a misogynist even though I am helping to prevent misogyny by not following feminist instructions.
Yup, I blame feminism for misogyny before I blame anything else.
See, feminism literally could not continue to exist without stirring up bad feeling between men and women -- one half of which is, needless to say, misogynistic feeling!
True. Speaking as someone involved with the culture for a couple of decades (less so with beliefs =]) - LC is right, and isn't the first to notice misogyny of the feminist ideology. The entire cult works by consolidation through bullying and scapegoating - which are repressive measures against women, whose interests they proclaim to look after. In effect only the rich, monosexual, cis, western elite (a la NOW functionaries) ever has benefitted from it. Everyone else historically has been royally screwed over. I am fairly sure LC would know the specifics of how the ideology screwed over kink community women. Same, sex workers. Same bisexual women(before 70 they used to screw over lesbians too, there is the wonderful book 'lavender menace' - and afterwards it switched to condemning straight women so every sexuality has got it - only bi women all the time), same other ethnicities etc. etc. Namely, if you're different in some way - there will be an ad hoc explanation how you're buying into patriarchy. So in the end it harms women, harms men and everyone. This is why i'm done with believing the totalitarian intellectual sewage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrNIuFrso8I
You know after blogging for a couple of weeks, I can't compel myself to write about feminist issues yet. They have too many "lol wut?" issues. The few things that I do want post about(that shooting in Arizona and the planned protests from the Phelps clan, for example, and I may still do so), but those aren't cases of misogyny(as far as I can tell).
". .I can't compel myself to write about feminist issues yet."
I look forward to the day when nobody must compel themselves to write about feminist issues. More pity they now must.
"The few things that I do want post about(that shooting in Arizona and the planned protests from the Phelps clan, for example, and I may still do so), but those aren't cases of misogyny(as far as I can tell)."
Maybe YOU can't tell, but I'm sure if you ask any feminist, s/he will tell you exactly where the misogyny is in those cases.
Fred Phelps. Ain't he a piece of work? Last I looked, you could download audio files of his sermons. I do audio sermons too, of course, but I am not a match for the Fredster, oh no!
Speaking of sermons, Fred Phelps and I are both great fans of Jonathan Edwards. That is to Fred's credit, of course.
Jonathan Edwards was DA MAN!!
Oh yes. .
Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.
"There is no fortress that is any defense from the power of God. Though hand join in hand, and vast multitudes of God's enemies combine and associate themselves, they are easily broken in pieces. They are as great heaps of light chaff before the whirlwind; or large quantities of dry stubble before devouring flames. We find it easy to tread on and crush a worm that we see crawling on the earth; so it is easy for us to cut or singe a slender thread that any thing hangs by: thus easy is it for God, when he pleases, to cast his enemies down to hell. What are we, that we should think to stand before him, at whose rebuke the earth trembles, and before whom the rocks are thrown down?
Good stuff! ;)
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