Saturday, October 29, 2011

Barbarosssaaa Takes PUA Shit Apart



We must ALL begin to take PUA shit apart.

14 Comments:

OpenID paulmurray said...

Didn't get past the first 10 seconds. Oh, the moral high-horseitude! Apparently, game also contaminates you precious bodily fluids, or something, just like flouride in the water.

When will the MRA community accept that just because they don't want to fuck anymore, doesn't mean that it's wrong fir younger men to want to?

11:21 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

The only reason I don't delete your ignorant comment, is to make an example of you as one who does not comprehend where the discourse is at.

Feel free to respond to this or not.

12:24 AM  
Blogger Alek Novy said...

Isn't it interesting how gamers always refuse to read, watch or even try to hear of any criticism.

And their excuse is always that they know what the critic says. Do they actually know? Not really, they assume the critic is of one of the following:

"Oh, you guys dislike game because you don't like sex"

"Oh, you one of them guys who wants to protect women from manipulation eh?"

They readily and openly admit to never reading any criticism with the following logic

"I didn't read Fidelbogen's piece, because Fidelbogen doesn't understand game, so he doesn't have a right to criticize it"

"How do I know he doesn't understand it? Well, because he is critical of game, that means he doesn't understand it"

Basically "If you don't subscribe to game, you are ignorant, and if you are ignorant, your opinion is invalid"

Do we see any similiarities to the way feminists argue? Mmm :)

5:59 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@aleknovy:

Actually, it is Barbarosssaaa's video that he didn't consume. . .

But yes, point abundantly taken.

Although personally I don't dislike "game" so much as I dislike gamers.

I hope you received my recent e-mail; I don't know if I sent it to the correct address. (I recall that you had more than one.)

6:30 AM  
Blogger Alek Novy said...

"Actually, it is Barbarosssaaa's video that he didn't consume. . ."

Oh, I wasn't talking about this particular guy, I was giving a hypothetical example of how gamers think and react to challenging information.

In this case, I was illustrating how they will respond to your article when you have one.

"I didn't read Fidelbogen's piece, because Fidelbogen doesn't understand game, so he doesn't have a right to criticize it"

This is EXACTLY what will happen when you write the piece, and all criticism will be of this kind, and not a single one of them will read it.

About Email
Yes, I just responded to your email from my primary email, you sent it to an old address.

Can you check if it didn't end up in some "funny" folder, seeing as it's a huge unsolicited email from a new address you've not corresponded with before.

6:52 AM  
Blogger Factory said...

Very well articulated argument. And all good points that PUAs would be well advised to consider. But as I have said repeatedly, the knowledge of certain things PUAs have is far beyond that of the avg MRA, and we would be well advised to consider the points they raise.

I'm just sayin'.

11:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A very interesting take on things but will it make me more attractive to women?

and exactly how does spending most of your time trying to get or having pussy take it off of the pedestal.

If anything it puts pussy on a higher pedestal and makes you walk around on fucking stilts.

3:16 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Factory:

Say what you will, but the PUAs need to take a fuckin' attitude check, like . . . yesterday! THAT is my problem with them; I am not even interested in debating the merits of "game".

Seriously, those dudes need to straighten their shit out and fly right. If they cannot integrate themselves into a copasetic, symbiotic political coalition with the rest of us, then as far I'm concerned, FUCK THOSE LEECHES!

Really, they remind me of a feminist fifth column....

3:28 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Anonymous:

I am having trouble processing exactly what you are saying.

3:32 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Alek:

Yes, I got your message fine and dandy, and I thank you very kindly for your time and energy. I will spend a couple days mulling it over, and get back to you.

3:58 PM  
Blogger Alek Novy said...

"A very interesting take on things but will it make me more attractive to women?"

Do you go into a gym and ask if working out will make you money? This is the MRA - you seem to be confused.

To answer your question anyway...

No, this won't make you more attractive, but neither will studying game.

Do some people become more attractive studying game? Yes?

Is it the most efficient, most productive way to do so? Heck No.

See, even if you do get results from studying game, all of it will come by proxy, that is, from the fact that game tricks you into talking to more women with more confidence, which eventually increases your skills if done enough many times.

The downside though is that it turns you into an unbearable zealot evangelist that goes and tries to shoot down other men, berate MRAs, and make you a general arrogant prick.

@Factory

PUAs have only one thing that they have knowledge of more than the average MRA - and that is marketing to desperate insecure men and building hierarchies.

Implying that the MRA should study how puas do things, is like saying we should study and learn things from scientology or heaven's gate.

4:01 PM  
Blogger Alek Novy said...

Specifically, I know you are criticizing gamers, and not game.

This is because you, just like Barbarossa do not even care whether it "works" or is "productive" because that is completely irrelevant to the issue that you and Barbarossa care about.

What I meant to say is that it doesn't matter. Gamers always bring everything down to game. Even if you write a huge big bold warning on top of the article that you are criticizing their relation to the MRA (or lack of contribution) and NOT game...

It doesn't matter... They're like zombies... They will still respond "oh well, you don't know game, so you have no right to write about it fidel"

Even though you're not writing about it!

4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was the bit that aced it for me:

"The PUAs are simply a band of Manginas that finally learned how to get laid, and I say this with quite a bit of skepticism since I’m deeply suspicious of just how much these men actually are getting laid. But pay attention to their behavior and you’ll see it yourself; they do what they believe women will like because they think it will get them laid –just like Manginas and White Knights and Male-Feminists who bash other men thinking it will get them laid. The only difference is that they may have actually gotten laid in the process. They still denigrate other men in the hopes of appearing to be better to the women that they are dependent on. The term ‘Beta Male’ is the equivalent of being called a misogynist by a male feminist, it’s a separative term designed to show women who has what they want and who doesn’t."

4:20 PM  
Blogger ScareCrow said...

I'd really like to make snazzy videos for barbarossaaaa stuff - his points need to be heard.

3:37 PM  

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