Thursday, September 06, 2012

Women Couldn't Vote -- and That Was Not "Oppression"



This video (and the article it comes from) is gadfly material. And I love to be a gadfly occasionally, if you haven't noticed. The feminist horse needs all the gadflies it can get, until it is literally bitten to death. Or if you prefer, call this death by a thousand cuts. I mean, if the so-called "hate speech" is kept to a very, very low threshhold, it becomes impossible to call it hate speech. Instead, you might call it "get-under-their-skin speech" -- it makes them dance, it makes them squirm, but there ain't diddly-doo-bop they can do about it. Or at any rate, not without showing their hand. The point is to apply social heat and pressure slowly -- call it the crock pot principle. What the hell are they going to do, pass laws against "get-under-their-skin-speech"? No matter what they do, you can ALWAYS stay just an inch outside of any boundary they set, and you will make your message perfectly clear while keeping out of range. So you are always pushing the envelope, a bit here, a bit there, drawing them further and further from the center of their world, and deeper and deeper into the desert where you can ambush them.

As for the video -- a lot of people hated it, but there is no "misogyny" about it. I proposed an outrageous idea -- a "you wouldn't dare say that" thesis which indeed I dared to say!  That much is true. But there is no "misogyny" in stating that women of the nineteenth century were not "oppressed" when they were denied the voting franchise. The so-called oppression, you see, was never factual but only theoretical -- by virtue of a "theory" concocted ex post facto and then retrojected. To put that another way, the "oppression" was an ideological artifact of later times, crafted as a rhetorical weapon for those same times. But it never existed, in a purely objective way, at the time of the actual situation.

And remember that plenty of women, in olden times, not only didn't give a hoot about gaining the franchise, but often actively opposed it. Furthermore, not all men opposed the franchise for women. Some did, and some didn't. So in the end, we are entitled to say that certain people (male and female both) supported women's suffrage, and that certain other people (likewise male and female both) did not. Accordingly, the notion that women of the nineteenth century were somehow "oppressed" because they couldn't vote, is shown to be highly problematic.

Misogynist? Who, me? No, there is not a speck of misogyny about anything I've said here, because no hatred of women is stated or implied, ever, in any form. And if you feel otherwise, then you are frankly an emotionalistic, chickenshit little ninny.

Now, if I the present writer were to propose that the nineteenth amendment to the United States Constitution be repealed, and that women be banned from the polling stations, then in the present historical context you might have a case that I had proposed an "oppressive" measure. And you would have a stronger case that I was "misogynistic" to float such an idea -- but it would still be a weak case.

But if such a measure were indeed carried through, then assuming that women en masse had loudly opposed it, you might plausibly argue -- in THAT historical context -- that women were "oppressed".

However, I the present writer propose no such measure. Let that be officially known and entered in the record. And let the feminists stop crowing that feminism delivered women from "oppression" when it  allegedly secured them the franchise. Feminism did not deliver women from that oppression -- it created that oppression!

Now, go and watch the video in order to round out what is written here.

5 Comments:

Blogger Simpsons Didit said...

I read on another blog that many of the first wave feminists had violent protests.

http://theantifeminist.com/new-post-on-the-history-of-feminism-this-is-what-a-feminist-looks-like-in-1912/

If women were oppressed than information about violent protests would not be omited by feminist historians.

But lets say women were oppressed and that information about the early feminists was censored for the sake of a good public image.

Than one can't exactly trust feminists.

Oppressed or not.

-Simpsonsdidit

7:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Futrelle has been having a meltdown lately over all the discussion about female sufferage going on in the Manosphere recently. (The Antifeminist, whom SimpsonDidit refenced above, has banned Futrelle from posting on his blog for other reasons).

Civilization, though, in whatever form of government it has, is premised on controlling the darker sides of human nature, which is why it recognizes a gender polarity. Feminising government is essentially creating an androgynous society and consequently 'liberating' these dark forces from the constraints of civilised behavior. In other words, it's a reversion back to the Law of the Jungle in the long run.

1:28 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

What? A Futrelle meltdown? Now THAT. . . sounds like pornography! ;)

But really, I am not aware of any recent manospheric trend toward talking about women's suffrage. And yet, I am doing it right here, now. So that might suggest one or both of 2 things:

A. Great minds think of the same stuff at the same times, or. . .

B. I need to get out more and see what's happening.

2:43 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

Oh..and your analysis of the breakdown of civilization is spot on. The trouble is, that we are no longer controlling the Dark Feminine.

In fact, it is "misogyny" to even hint at the existence of a Dark Feminine.

We aren't supposed to talk about that, don'tcha know?

2:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fidelbogen:
'A Futrelle meltdown almost sounds pornographic'

In a way, yes. One of the reasons Antifeminist banned Futrelle from his site was because Futrelle had (prior to his incarnation as Manboobz) written some rather lurid literature about topics he now denounces. After Antifeminist exposed these writings publically, Futrelle refused to retract any of it, so he was banned for advocating practices against blog policy.

9:44 PM  

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