Thursday, June 05, 2014

An Open Question to All Feminists Everywhere

I would like to put a question to all feminists everywhere.

Would any of you or all of you describe yourselves as pro-male?

Is feminism pro-male, or not?

Do give this your thoughtful consideration.

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The title of "Feminist" has changed drastically over the years so I will try to answer your question as best as I can. I consider myself a "Feminist" in the sense that I believe in equal rights but I am smart enough to know that there are some things that laws will never change- like human nature. At some point you need to draw the line that women and men *are* different and should act accordingly. So, do I think *today's feminism* is pro-male? God, no. Am I? Yes.

11:21 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@Anon1121:

Based on what you have said, you are objectively not a feminist, and it is unfortunate that you would call yourself one.

You should consider renouncing that label in connection with yourself.

7:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honestly, it's hard to renounce the label simply because Feminism had it's place. Many women before me did fight for the all of the rights I enjoy as a woman in today's society. I believe there is a difference between being a feminist in the traditional sense of the word and the femi-nazi's that have taken over the party line.

Maybe "humanist" would be a better word for me. I see both sides of the coin- I don't believe a man should get a job or make more money just because he is a man but I also don't believe a woman should take a job as a construction worker if she is going to ask for special privileges just because she is a woman. Getting a job and getting paid should depend on the ability of the person to get the job done.

Know what I mean?

7:25 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

Yes, we know what you mean. It's basic liberal 101 stuff. Nothin' new here folks.

And yes, "humanist" would be a good label to adopt.

However, to comprehend that there was a poison worm in the feminist apple even from the earliest days, is not 101 stuff. It's advanced course work. . . .

11:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course there was a poison worm in the feminist apple right from the get-go. That's not hard to figure out at all. It was started by a bunch of man-haters and the pendulum has swung way too far in the opposite direction. With that being said, I am not trying to bait you (or anyone else) and I actually agree with what you are doing here. I am not some simple minded asshole liberal woman who looks at men as the root of all evil.

At first, I took your posting as snarky but then I thought about the fact that you must hear about "the many facets of feminism" all the damn time and are tired of beating the dead horse. I get it. I read in another post that it's insane that "feminism means something different to every woman" and I have to agree. So, I am not a feminist. I am a humanist to a degree but not liberal.

I think women have beaten the shit out of men long enough. Every household commercial makes the man look stupid while the woman stands there all self-righteous. Feminists have created a "rape-culture" that's, in my opinion, very dangerous. I saw a woman out in front of a bar on a Wednesday afternoon, smoking a cigarette, dressed like a whore, complaining that there are no more good men left in the world. Maybe if she wasn't hanging out in front of a bar on a Wednesday afternoon dressed like a whore a "good man" might want to talk to her. WTF does she think she's gonna get when she has nothing to offer except for her "Golden Pussy??"

I have seen how women have violated the "inner sanctum" of male dominated professions and have slapped sexual harassment suits against anyone who might say a bad word in front of them. I have seen how a woman will get a bad review at her job and immediately go to "it's because I am a woman!!" No, it's because you are an asshole and you suck at your job.

As I said before, the comment about the many meanings of feminism resonated with me and I must admit that I read it after I replied to you the second time. I have no doubt that the women who started the feminist movement would be overjoyed if they could see where it has brought us. So, think what you must about me but I do believe in your cause. I do support you.

3:16 PM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

Well, it sounds like you've got the basic idea nailed down pretty solid there. So, persist in righteousness, and keep on keeping on!

5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, I am assuming that since I am decidedly NOT a feminist my comments are moot... LOL.

Anyway, thanks for helping me come to that realization.

6:30 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

"Moot"?

How do you mean?

11:02 AM  
Blogger vanessa ray said...

Being a humanist and a feminist are not mutually exclusive. I love men and I love sex. It concerns me that men are less likely to report being the victim of domestic violence or rape for fear of being ridiculed and/or not believed. I think the court systems bias towards men {in particular, minority men} is immoral and disgusting.
Feminism is pro-equality with a concentration on women's issues. It's just like people who advocate for gay rights or to end racism.
Because men are also harmed by sexism and gender roles {such as the rape of men not being taken seriously}, I definitely believe that feminism is pro-man.

I call myself a feminist, but frankly, as long as you support equality {for men, women, lgbtq, and people of different races and religions}, I don't think it matters what you call yourself. Actions speak much louder than words.

6:28 AM  
Blogger Fidelbogen said...

@vanessa ray:

Everybody and their aunt Sally is reinventing feminism these days, it seems.

8:32 PM  

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