Feminists: Stop Spreading Lies About "Male Violence"!
Note: The text given below is a polished and expanded version of a comment which I posted at the following web address:
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/2007/10/02/
men_often_victims_of_sexual_assault
I hope that a few CF readers will feel 'moved by the spirit' to add their voices over yonder. While you are there, be sure to check out the excellent comment by Marc Angelucci just prior to my comment! (It looks like PO never took him up on his challenge! ;)
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It is now clear to me that we have tons of evidence suggesting that women are, in general terms, as evil as men in the realm of Intimate Partner Violence.
Nevertheless, I am willing to allow that this is still a field of controversy. What I mean is, that I am willing to extend a certain liberality toward the feminist side by not asking the feminists to discard their belief system outright - but rather to suspend it.
More to the point: while I do not foresee the feminists joining me on my side of the belief fence, I still think it would be a civilized gesture on their part if they would embrace an "agnostic" standpoint, and chill out for a while - frankly admitting that matters are very much in limbo for the present. In practical terms, I mean that the feminists should immediately CEASE AND DESIST from repeating certain items as "fact", when in fact nothing of the sort has been established.
Consider, for example, the widely circulated feminist "fact" that "Men commit 95% of all DV in order to maintain patriarchal control over women". This is most emphatically and categorically not a "fact"! It is only an assertion that certain people insist on propagating despite weighty evidence of its being wildly untrue. To persist in such assertions is unethical, unscrupulous, dishonest and in a word, reprehensible - the more so when such assertions continue to serve as a propaganda subtext for anti-male agitation in all forms.
However, as said, I am willing to meet the feminists halfway. They should at the very least have enough decency to acknowledge that they MIGHT be wrong about certain points bearing on these issues, and then they ought to stop spreading questionable data in a dogmatic tone of voice as they have long been accustomed to doing. Rather, they should embrace a mood of "wait and see", insisting that further studies be conducted (under the most rigorously professional scientific standards!) so that we can get to the bottom of this business once for all! In the meantime, yet again, the order of the day should be agnosticism all around!
Think about it. To assert roundly that a matter is TRUE when there is considerable room for doubt, and to admit no illuminating footnotes that might serve notice of such for the listener's benefit, amounts to a species of deception or, less politely stated, lying.
So let the feminists book themselves a room at the Halfway Hotel of honest skepticism. Let them book it for the season!
I think I am being more than generous in allowing them this degree of liberty. I trust that others in our Movement will assist to convey the burden of these sentiments toward the opposition through a variety of channels, and that the opposition will undertake a seemly diligence in the spirit of the counsel here proffered.
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/2007/10/02/
men_often_victims_of_sexual_assault
I hope that a few CF readers will feel 'moved by the spirit' to add their voices over yonder. While you are there, be sure to check out the excellent comment by Marc Angelucci just prior to my comment! (It looks like PO never took him up on his challenge! ;)
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It is now clear to me that we have tons of evidence suggesting that women are, in general terms, as evil as men in the realm of Intimate Partner Violence.
Nevertheless, I am willing to allow that this is still a field of controversy. What I mean is, that I am willing to extend a certain liberality toward the feminist side by not asking the feminists to discard their belief system outright - but rather to suspend it.
More to the point: while I do not foresee the feminists joining me on my side of the belief fence, I still think it would be a civilized gesture on their part if they would embrace an "agnostic" standpoint, and chill out for a while - frankly admitting that matters are very much in limbo for the present. In practical terms, I mean that the feminists should immediately CEASE AND DESIST from repeating certain items as "fact", when in fact nothing of the sort has been established.
Consider, for example, the widely circulated feminist "fact" that "Men commit 95% of all DV in order to maintain patriarchal control over women". This is most emphatically and categorically not a "fact"! It is only an assertion that certain people insist on propagating despite weighty evidence of its being wildly untrue. To persist in such assertions is unethical, unscrupulous, dishonest and in a word, reprehensible - the more so when such assertions continue to serve as a propaganda subtext for anti-male agitation in all forms.
However, as said, I am willing to meet the feminists halfway. They should at the very least have enough decency to acknowledge that they MIGHT be wrong about certain points bearing on these issues, and then they ought to stop spreading questionable data in a dogmatic tone of voice as they have long been accustomed to doing. Rather, they should embrace a mood of "wait and see", insisting that further studies be conducted (under the most rigorously professional scientific standards!) so that we can get to the bottom of this business once for all! In the meantime, yet again, the order of the day should be agnosticism all around!
Think about it. To assert roundly that a matter is TRUE when there is considerable room for doubt, and to admit no illuminating footnotes that might serve notice of such for the listener's benefit, amounts to a species of deception or, less politely stated, lying.
So let the feminists book themselves a room at the Halfway Hotel of honest skepticism. Let them book it for the season!
I think I am being more than generous in allowing them this degree of liberty. I trust that others in our Movement will assist to convey the burden of these sentiments toward the opposition through a variety of channels, and that the opposition will undertake a seemly diligence in the spirit of the counsel here proffered.
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posted by Fidelbogen at 6:03 PM
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"Nearly 200 scientific studies point to one simple conclusion: Women are at least as likely as men to engage in partner aggression." (Link)
REAL science knows exactly what's going on for a while now and supports us. It's just that such studies have a tendency to get buried by the femplex.
There is no point at all in trying to go halfway with feminists or the system that sustains them ,you
will merely set yourself halfway back.These people have a set goal which has obviously been agreed
with relevant authorities some years ago.Why should they change course now when they are almost at the winning post?
Ahhh...we have TWO Mikes here today!
@Mike Savell: Agreed, no going halfway with the feminists. That is my belief also, BUT.... you are only looking at the surface. You are only looking at my words, and not the master strategy behind my words. This is politics: it requires "game". . . And I see the moves. Trust me. Shhhhh! ;-)
@German Mike: Thank you for finding that great article from Snohomish County, Washington - almost in my backyard. Not the county I live in, but rather close! :)
It says that the author of the article is "director of Public Policy for the Washington Civil Rights Council."
To be honest, that sounds a bit low on the hierarchy of state government. WCRC doesn't really sound like an official org of government at all. But still...
....I'm sure they have a certain amount of "pull" in the scheme of things. Yes, it's good to see that the "poison" is starting to breach the system on some level. Plus, thousands of readers in Snohomish County got those thoughts planted in their heads. GOOD! :)
One thing I don't like about the article: It says "nearly 200 studies."
Actually, it's over 200!
Hi fidel, I got that link today from the German "Genderama" blog here. Genderama is in my opinion the best German language "movement" blog. In any case, it's the most frequented blog and often updated 3-4 times a day.
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